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  1. #411
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    Senn's Avatar
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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
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    I don't really get it, but for the most part, this thread has stayed classy aside from a handful of posts
    so nothing to see here
    just keep on supporting
    (2)

  2. #412
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    Navbir Persefoni
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I wanted to stay away from actually posting in this forum until today. I am very disappointed with how SE just wanted to be quiet after all those silence. That silence made people to be excited over having male viera in Tokyo fanfest. However, he did give big hope to furry lovers, of course. Yet I am very upset. We live in 2019. Can we see something different from generic cute sexy girls and masculine strong men? Why can't we? I have been crying for cuter boys but not like lalas or miqotes. I want something cute and masculine at the same time like the design that they gave us in the concept art. I always had disappointment on aura's works also. Why can't we have something much more like the concept arts we had? Why are we going so much more on "SEXY WOMEN" like races and primals and "BEAST MASCULINE" races and primals? Can SE can think much better and flip the thoughts much more creative?
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  3. #413
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    Quuoooote's Avatar
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    Myla Quille
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just created an account on the forums to voice my thoughts. I recently took advantage of the Twitch Prime deal to start playing this game, and ended up getting way more invested in it than I originally intended. I plan to play for a long time now, and I'd very much like to have a player avatar that represents what I would like to play as.

    I've been holding on to a Fantasia since completing ARR specifically to change into a Viera; I've always loved bunny aesthetics, and so it was an easy choice to make. The problem is that I want to play as a male, specifically a smaller, cuter, more effeminate male race. None of the options given other than Lalafell (which don't appeal to me at all...) really fit the bill on that, leaving me with no other option but to play as a female. I'd be fine playing as a female Viera, but seeing so much discussion and disappointment really woke me up to the fact that male Viera could and should be a possibility for a playable avatar! Lore is a very flimsy excuse to use when you write the lore itself, and by saying that "we can't include male Viera because they've never been seen before", SE is the only one forcing that statement to be true. This could very easily be the game where they're first seen, pushing it off forever 'just because' seems like a weak idea when they are established in-universe as a people who do exist in the world, and can be seen, even if it hasn't happened yet.

    Most of the whole alternate universe/different races in the First arguments have already been made, so I won't bother restating those. This is a very big +1 from a new player, who wants to continue to enjoy the game for as long as possible, hopefully with a character and race that satisfies my wants and needs!
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  4. #414
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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quuoooote View Post
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    thanks for your contribution to the thread
    I'd like to see a short and slim male viera as well since we do not have short and slim males in other races - perhaps with Alphinaud's body type
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  5. #415
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    Cenauru Dotharl
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I don't have much interest in playing Viera myself, but I do know lots of players who are bummed because they won't be able to play a male Viera, or to a smaller extent, a female Hrothgar. MMO's are all about self-expression in an online world, genderlocking severely limits the amount of creativity people have to create a character that they can bond with, identify with, and feel comfortable playing as. I don't think any of the FFXIV team means any harm and I fully believe this issue is happening because there's not enough time to create 2 full races with both male and female options in a single expansion. I know Yoshida said that this will be the last set of races we'll see, however I do think the FFXIV team should still work on bringing male Viera and female Hrothgar to the game before they decide to stop bringing in any new races.
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  6. #416
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    thanks for your contribution to the thread
    I'd like to see a short and slim male viera as well since we do not have short and slim males in other races - perhaps with Alphinaud's body type
    While I wouldn't want to see this implementation for male Viera (I had hoped for something more along the lines of the male highlander build) I would rather them be created in a way I don't like than not created at all.
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  7. #417
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    Senn's Avatar
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I would rather them be created in a way I don't like than not created at all.
    I agree with this sentiment
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  8. #418
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    S'affron Vellum
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Yes yes yes yes to male Viera! If Hrothgar are to be playable in the game, then I call for female Hrothgar too! (As well as better models...I'm happy for those who like them but the male Hrothgar models look very crude imo). I am more upset with gender-locking period than I am with the specific lack of a playable male Viera. I don't like the implied/enforced stereotypes, no matter how many lore fallacies or other arguments against the missing gender-race combos. It doesn't look good without them in any situation. <3
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  9. #419
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    Estinien Bale
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    Asura
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    +1 to male viera!
    Genderlocking races is so lame. Are we really living in 2019?
    I've waited so long! But they gave me great disappointment and sorrow...
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  10. #420
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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    thanks for the support and remember to like the original post!
    every like counts

    also share this thread with your friends/community/social media and encourage people to like the post
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