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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    Oh please, are you seriously going to push a strawman and try putting words in my mouth because I'm not screaming "BURN THEM"? Come on. Don't be rude.

    I never said I thought the constraints had to do with budget, and I certainly never called SE indie. They have a large staff and this is a high quality game with a lot of resources behind the team. However, it is still human beings making the thing. It takes a lot of time and effort, and if an ultimatum was given that the last races introduced will be in Shadowbringers it makes sense they'd prioritize getting both Viera and Hrothgar through the door. I never named who I thought was responsible specifically on an individual level for possible restrictions on the patch. And frankly, I never claimed to know everything either. But it would make more sense under these circumstances than SE pissing away money and making deliberate outrage because screw the fans. If you want that check out western media for a while.

    I agree it's not ideal for there to be unfinished elements. That said, SE is generally good about fixing these things. You can be wary without the level of hysteria people are showing right now. I want the new races too, but the "WE WANT IT NOW" attitude reads extremely spoiled.
    I...was rude? I was kind of joking with the indie company comparision, as shown by the barely visible /s. Where did I even try to put words in ya mouth? Calm down a little, jesus.

    I just wanted to expose my opinion that problematic things about details popping up right now most likely are (as normally happens) a signal that bigger problems might arise on the xpac. It's normally not a good signal to have the dev team basically admitting they didn't think things through with the new races they added that they aren't even sure how to make the headpieces work in time for the deadline. They surely had more than a few problems during development but still want to perhaps rush a product that might not be ready yet.

    I'd like to remind everyone that this isn't a free to play game. People pay monthly for this, they pay for the base game and xpacs, and finally we have the added honor of having what equals to a cash shop on top of that. I'd honestly expect a bit more from this team, ya know?

    But for god's sake, I'm not trying to offend you or the devs personally, I'm just puzzled by the choices they made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreal View Post
    I...was rude? I was kind of joking with the indie company comparision, as shown by the barely visible /s. Where did I even try to put words in ya mouth? Calm down a little, jesus.

    I just wanted to expose my opinion that problematic things about details cropping up right now most likely are (as normally happens) a signal that bigger problems might arise on the xpac. It's normally not a good signal to have the dev team basically admitting they didn't think things through with the new races they added that they aren't even sure how to make the headpieces work in time for the deadline. They surely had more than a few problems during development but still want to perhaps rush a product that might not be ready yet.

    I'd like to remind everyone that this isn't a free to play to game. People pay monthly for this, they pay for the base game and xpacs, and finally we have the added honor of having what equals to a cash shop on top of that. I'd honestly expect a bit more from this team, ya know?

    But for god's sake, I'm not trying to offend you or the devs personally, I'm just puzzled by the choices they made.
    Alright. Maybe this is a "tone doesn't translate through text" thing. If I misread what you were going for, I'm sorry about that. I'm very used to fandom situations where you can say one thing and if it's not in line with general consensus, people jump in with their own skewed, totally disingenuous version of what was said.

    Ex. Might type something like "I don't like vegetables." Reply would be "So you abuse and murder innocent animals for food?"

    The /s thing tends to be common in situations like that too. From my perspective I've been looking into this trying to figure out what's going on and where I stand on the whole thing, made a big post trying to offer another possibility besides demonizing the devs or the opposite extreme of "good, hope the people who wanted full gender options don't get what they want". It looked to me like you were trying to take all of that and make out like I'm just being a company shill or something.

    I have no problem with you discussing criticism for what's going on. I agree it would probably have been better to push the deadline back, but I seriously am wondering if there was pressure to meet fanfest deadlines and keep release fixed in case it hurt sales. I've seen a lot of stuff like that happen before.

    Again, if you weren't going for the passive aggressive thing I'm sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreal View Post
    I...was rude? I was kind of joking with the indie company comparision, as shown by the barely visible /s. Where did I even try to put words in ya mouth? Calm down a little, jesus.

    I just wanted to expose my opinion that problematic things about details popping up right now most likely are (as normally happens) a signal that bigger problems might arise on the xpac. It's normally not a good signal to have the dev team basically admitting they didn't think things through with the new races they added that they aren't even sure how to make the headpieces work in time for the deadline. They surely had more than a few problems during development but still want to perhaps rush a product that might not be ready yet.

    I'd like to remind everyone that this isn't a free to play game. People pay monthly for this, they pay for the base game and xpacs, and finally we have the added honor of having what equals to a cash shop on top of that. I'd honestly expect a bit more from this team, ya know?

    But for god's sake, I'm not trying to offend you or the devs personally, I'm just puzzled by the choices they made.
    To be fair, your sarcasm marker was well hidden.
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