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  1. #371
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    Korihu's Avatar
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    Korihu Yanhu
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    Just gonna extend my thoughts a bit more to try to make a proper arguement.

    Someone sat down, drew girls with bunny ears in lingerie and heels, then decided only females of these people are seen. Hmm. I wonder why. But praise the lore am I right?! So deep~~
    Hrothgar would have been a welcome addition, but not at the cost of Viera being single gendered, or Hrothgar being only males.
    I would personally have loved female Hrothgar, tough, bestial females are not represented enough. I love the Charr in GW2 for this reason. But instead we're going into the exact same stereotypes things have been going down for years in these kinds of games.

    I remember being so happy when I first played FFXIV because it seemed like they were breaking out of those stereotypes, giving us catboys and female roes, stupid subligars for both genders. I was like oh my gosh, they remembered girls (and lgbt and feminine boys) with these kinds of interests exists.
    I know some of you may not have this experience, but it's something to grow up and all the media is nothing but skimpy, sexy women. While any of our interests in males is shot down as gross, weird (as yoshi said), and a joke/silly. And god forbid we dared express our distaste, we'll get called whiny and entitled. Yeah, we might be feeling a little bit entitled, having you know, been shamed and not allowed our interests in mainstream media.
    And why, tell me, would they go SO far out of the way to suddenly implement gender locked races again, something they decided to do without from 1.0/FF11, specifically because of Viera?
    I'm sorry, but it's not too hard for people to personally interpret that it might be because the devs are personally uncomfortable with having to think about bunny boys in heels. And wanted to backtrack. They realised that the 12 developer spent so much time justifying why these warriors go out in heels and lingerie that the males would have to be the same.

    Then there's the garbage arguement about ''''lore''''. The whole thing about us being adventurers is that we left our society to explore the world, otherwise Xaela should never leave the steppes, sun cats never leaving their 'pride', moon male cats just not existing essentially.
    drives away in Yo-Kai Mount, fully equipped in Garo gear while I queue for Nier raid
    Now that I think about it, female only races are always these skimpy, sexy women. A lot of male only races tend to be stupid looking, or not what most females would personally like. *I wonder w h y*
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    Last edited by Korihu; 03-24-2019 at 12:54 PM.

  2. #372
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    Roda's Avatar
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    Someone sat down, drew girls with bunny ears in lingerie and heels, then decided only females of these people are seen. Hmm. I wonder why. But praise the lore am I right?! So deep~~
    Nearly naked women = a ok! Wholesome fantasy content!
    Nearly naked man = Scary uncomfortable and weird, what are you some kind of horrible sexual deviant??
    /s
    =.=
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  3. #373
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    Wynn_Storm's Avatar
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    Wynn Storm
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    Mateus
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    Maybe in the future they will come out. Will just have to wait and see. Hopefully people won't attack Yoshi at every Q&A with this, but it will probably happen,
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  4. #374
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    ...
    I don't want him to be attacked, but I want people to request male viera in every fanfest and q&a lol

    also, if you guys have twitter or whatever else, please make sure to share this thread on social media
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  5. #375
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    Rollout's Avatar
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    Roxanne Steele
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    Monk Lv 90
    Please, Square, just give the people what they want. Don't repeat the same mistakes that 1.0 did. There's no reason to genderlock a race when another gender actually exists.
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  6. #376
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    WhiteArchmage's Avatar
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Just want to say I'm impressed by the positive outpouring so far Likes may mean little but the fact that so many people are posting for the first (or one of the first) times in here, is pretty telling, love to see the support <3
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  7. #377
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    I think if people cried more about the gender locking for both races it would get more traction. Cause there's literally no reason for either to be gender locked.
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  8. #378
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    Merrick Thorne
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    Tossing in my two cents of support for female Hrothgar and male Viera. If you want to argue on the grounds of lore -- the lore for male viera is on par with what's said about male miqo'te.

    There is, quite simply, no reason to rebuff people by saying 'BUT THE LORE' when just today new lore about Au Ra was made at Fanfest.

    Even BDO, after a period of time, made a class that was previously locked to just female characters available to male characters. And I hold BDO to a much lower standard of quality than FFXIV.
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  9. #379
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    Just gonna extend my thoughts a bit more to try to make a proper arguement.
    ...
    It really feels like all that openness to not-teen-boys was an accident and they're doubling down hard to like actively drive away those people who felt welcomed by the design philosophies of ARR.
    (I know, assume incompetence before malice, but this series of fanfests feels like a precision airstrike to my trust in their design intentions...)
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  10. #380
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    Gideon Welles
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Just want to say I'm impressed by the positive outpouring so far Likes may mean little but the fact that so many people are posting for the first (or one of the first) times in here, is pretty telling, love to see the support <3
    Not gonna lie. I've been playing for a couple years now and I joined the forums yesterday because I didn't know where else to voice my dissatisfaction.
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