The people currently blackmailing Devs over cosmetics are a disgrace

[Duroy]

Except it's not a single player saying that.

Additionally, saying "Since this isn't happening, I'm no longer going to play" isn't any form of blackmail. You people are tossing around words you find in a dictionary and calling it fact without regard to context. A consumer not getting what they want, regardless of the reasons, and choosing to take their business elsewhere is not blackmail. It's the cycle of consumerism. "Threatening" (since you guys love using this word) to unsub is not blackmail either. It's expressing discontent for the projected direction of the game and the resulting outcome. Since some of you love quoting definitions... here's one for you:

threat
/THret/Submit
noun
1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

"You could say that the $15/ month they'll be losing is damage." No, no you can't. It isn't money they're entitled to. It's not THEIR money. It's our money that we're SPENDING on an item we currently enjoy playing. When that enjoyment runs out, we have the right to say "if x doesn't happen, then I will go to y instead." If Squeenix doesn't need/want our money, then that's on them.

what you essentially said is: "you guys use words based on the dictionary, but you are wrong, I will tell you what meaning YOU intended to use, and this meaning is wrong!".

[Fyce]

Your backlash would make much more sense if people were actually asking for something that was detrimental to the game. Of course it would be odd for people to say something like "I'm unsubbing until SE removes raids!" but literally nobody is doing something that ridiculous, they simply want more content added. How is that a bad thing? How does this hurt SE at all? You don't need to defend them. They can take criticism.

"I'm going to unsub if I don't get muh catboys" is criticism now? What a very weird definition of that criticism actually is.

By the way, I'm not defending SE, I'm attacking entitled snowflakes using their subs as a threat.
And yes, I also wish that game had more content. I never said otherwise like you seem to imply. The difference is that I'm not acting like a child to get what I want.

Except it's not a single player saying that.

Except yes, some people do.

Additionally, saying "Since this isn't happening, I'm no longer going to play" isn't any form of blackmail.

And I never said it was. Don't twist my words. I'm targeting a specific kind of people here, and they are not the one you are referencing.

You people are tossing around words you find in a dictionary and calling it fact without regard to context. A consumer not getting what they want, regardless of the reasons, and choosing to take their business elsewhere is not blackmail. It's the cycle of consumerism. "Threatening" (since you guys love using this word) to unsub is not blackmail either. It's expressing discontent for the projected direction of the game and the resulting outcome. Since some of you love quoting definitions... here's one for you:

threat
/THret/Submit
noun
1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Funny to say that I'm throwing words I found in a dictionnary when you are the one openning the book to throw the definition at me as if you didn't understood what I meant.
Being pedantic about a definition isn't going to get you anywhere. It is low effort argumentation that is not adressing the actual issue.

Also, it's not my fault if english doesn't have a proper word for that (not to my knowledge at least). Which is why using the closest thing to convey the general idea is relevant.
Feel free to provide us with a better word, dictionnary master.

"You could say that the $15/ month they'll be losing is damage." No, no you can't. It isn't money they're entitled to. It's not THEIR money. It's our money that we're SPENDING on an item we currently enjoy playing. When that enjoyment runs out, we have the right to say "if x doesn't happen, then I will go to y instead." If Squeenix doesn't need/want our money, then that's on them.

And now you have to put words in people's mouth in order to be able to argue against them.
You are the reason why I can't take the official forums seriously.

I don't see how saying "I will take my money elsewhere" is a threat, or blackmail.

It isn't, and nobody claimed it was.

[Novak_04]

what you essentially said is: "you guys use words based on the dictionary, but you are wrong, I will tell you what meaning YOU intended to use, and this meaning is wrong!".

That's a cute interpretation, but let me fix that for you: Dictionaries give definitions but not context. You need both in order to use a word correctly. You're tossing around "Blackmail" because it fits your definition. However, blackmail is a crime punishable by law. The crime is the CONTEXT that you're missing in order to use that word properly.

[Ramesses]

Relax people, genderlock is just cosmetic. You are threatening to leave a game, its gameplay, its scenario, its community, over some lack of cosmetics...

Some people are disappointed by the fanfest. I am disappointed by how childish a part of this community is. Such an outcry for such a trivial thing...

...Right?

The sense of entitlement from these protesters is literally oozing off my screen and interfering with my attention for the FanFest.

[Hash_Browns]

I don't see how saying "I will take my money elsewhere" is a threat, or blackmail.

[Novak_04]

I don't see how saying "I will take my money elsewhere" is a threat, or blackmail.

It isn't. These people googled a definition and called it fact. I'd be more inclined to listen to their argument if their initial premise didn't have me laughing out of my seat.

[Duroy]

That's a cute interpretation, but let me fix that for you: Dictionaries give definitions but not context. You need both in order to use a word correctly. You're tossing around "Blackmail" because it fits your definition. However, blackmail is a crime punishable by law. The crime is the CONTEXT that you're missing in order to use that word properly.

You're right about the context and I answered it in one of my previous posts:

"I proved that blackmail could mean what I meant to say (I've quoted the dictionary). But, you are right, context and connotation are important. However, the context is pretty clear. Its pretty clear I do not mean blackmail in a legal kind of way. What proof do I have that it is pretty clear? The fact that some people, as you have pointed out, called me out about the use of the word. Let me try to explain.

The use of the legal term of blackmail is so outrageous it got people calling me ignorant. It is this "outrageousness" which constitutes the context and let people know I'm not meaning the legal blackmail but the broad meaning of blackmail: it wouldnt be serious to think someone would accuse the angry people of carrying out the criminal offense of blackmailing, therefore anybody objective and honest would understand I mean blackmail in a broad kind of way, a meaning which exists, therefore a meaning I'm allowed to use."

[Mentlegen]

...Right?

The sense of entitlement from these protesters is literally oozing off my screen and interfering with my attention for the FanFest.

Fun thing about paying for a product. It entitles you to the product you're paying for, and in a product provided to multiple types of consumers, this means each one has a different view of what that product means to them. If that product no longer gives you what you consider yourself to be paying for, you have the right to object or state your discontent in a way that isn't vulgar. I know 'sense of entitlement' is a cool kids phrase to use against people who are discontent about products (especially gaming products) nowadays and get upset about it vocally, but in this case, since it is a paid service, one is entitled to what one wants to pay for and considers the whole of the game service. This includes races, cosmetics, dungeons, anything considered content. Neat, huh?

[Anesteria]

It isn't. These people googled a definition and called it fact. I'd be more inclined to listen to their argument if their initial premise didn't have me laughing out of my seat.

You shouldn't be surprised when Fyce is still keeping that stance, AND defending someone who essentially told others to "f*#@ off as the community would benefit from people leaving".

[Novak_04]

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1. I think you missed the mark on this comment.... "It's not a single player saying that" referencing the fact that many people are saying that -- that's not even considering those that haven't displayed their discontent on the forums. Swing and a miss on your end.

2. It was a general statement about the theme of the thread. We'll call this a ball.

3. You literally threw the word "threat" around. You said that word specifically. I gave you folks a taste of your own medicine by using your half-baked argumentation (googling). I, too, can find definitions to fit my argument. Strike two!

4. I don't recall saying those are your words. Can you point out where in my post I sourced you for that? I think you are assuming the quoting you meant that every statement thereafter is related directly to your post. That is not the case. The line I used was simply a counter to a potential counter argument that could be used against my point. Let's make this ball two.

"You are the reason why I can't take the official forums seriously." - You.
This is something I will gladly cite from you. Have you read your ridiculous assertions? You and the OP have this delusion that everything is black and white. IT FITS THIS DEFINITION, IT MUST BE THIS! The moment someone comes in to challenge that idea, your rebuttal turns to hyperbole. Strike three, you're out!