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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    I can't take seriously any arguments about respecting the lore in the same expansion that we're getting sexy Nier robots as one of the main attractions in the form of a 24-man raid series. It's completely possible to enjoy the lore and be enthralled/immersed by it while also recognizing that all lore decisions are arbitrary beyond whether or not the devs felt like doing it and, to a lesser degree, because people asked for it. Yoshi has admitted that one of the main reasons we're getting Viera at all is because we've asked for them for years. You may not like the way people ask for things, but outside of raw economic data (subbing and unsubbing) that doesn't really speak to the success or failure of any one feature in the game, this is how the Player-DevTeam relationship works.
    I can respect that last bit, especially the way you worded it. Thank you. I wish people could treat them with a little more respect and not like they just stole their ice cream from them. It's despicable, after everything the dev team has done for the playerbase and everything else they've been through since the beginning.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTough View Post
    It was stated how there are differences in each universe for each race. I didn't see any lore about female Hrothgar in Eorzea. Nobody did.
    Just like how there is no lore about male Viera in Eorz- oh wait there is.

    And how they're much much rarer than male Miqote who are also not play- oh wait they're just as rare and male miqote are playable.

    Got anything else?
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Just like how there is no lore about male Viera in Eorz- oh wait there is.

    And how they're much much rarer than male Miqote who are also not play- oh wait they're just as rare and male miqote are playable.

    Got anything else?
    lol it's never once been stated in-game that male miqote has never ever been seen by anyone, EVER.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTough View Post
    lol it's never once been stated in-game that male miqote has never ever been seen by anyone, EVER.
    Good job at shifting goalposts. Care to actually answer the points that have been refuted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Good job at shifting goalposts. Care to actually answer the points that have been refuted?
    What? You're not even making sense anymore. Anyways, I'm going to bed now. No more replies from me till I get some sleep.
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    The only reason I would expect them not to add male viera or female ronso is because of the gimick of the male/female only races and the lore is used as an excuse.

    Because using the lore to justify not putting the development power into making the races is just laziness on SE's part.

    Now I don't care for genderlocked races. I'm sure nobody does. But unlike genderlocked classes, I can accept genlocked races more provided the reasons both in game and out to justify it. In this case, the reason in game would have been sound. However developing Ronso disproves that they couldn't simply make male viera, they just didn't want. The two reasons conflict on a logical sense (to me) and thus this forum is now on fire.
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  7. #17
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    Tana Firesong
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    Big you are not winning anything here....
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    I definitely prefer they stick to their guns on this; not because I want to them to uphold the sanctity of the lore so much as I just find female-only/female-predominantly races to be supremely cool. However, I'd rather have female and male Viera than no Viera at all.
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    Just leaving this here.
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  10. #20
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    In that case, they should stick to their guns and add female Ronso Hrothgar since female Ronsos Hrothgar were always present in FFX.
    Last time I checked, this is not FF X.
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko View Post
    Just leaving this here.
    Let me check...
    ...tread not the wood with hopes of finding a male Viera, for you will be met with naught but disappointement...
    They simply do not exist to us
    Who could have seen that coming ?
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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