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  1. #19651
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    I got told to "stop attacking" in expert roulette today because I kept ripping aggro off the Warrior on bosses.

    Who was in Deliverance 99% of the time. (and pretty sure used no or minimal aggro combos)
    After I used Diversion on the opener. (and on CD every time it was back up.)
    AND used Lucid every time I was about to/ or rippred aggro again and still caught back up.

    You'd think some tanks were allergic to the concept of aggro. Thankfully he didn't roll on the alliance ring of fending so I finally completed the fending set from there. mob packs were okay but I still stole the occasional one, since Overpower spam still nets good aggro even in Deliverance.
    I had a tank a few weeks back(this was in Orbonne mind you, and I was on my PLD), that ended up dying on the second boss, which happens, but when I had aggro(didn't even touch Shield Oath), they told me to drop down to Sword Oath so that they could continue to MT...even after I told them I hadn't touched Shield Oath since the skeleton adds at the start because they always go after healers right away I find(always because of regen ticks of course). Even only using Royal Authority combo, it took them almost 10% of the boss' HP to get back to being MT.
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  2. #19652
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    MrThinker's Avatar
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    Jakaar Rakkin
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I had a tank a few weeks back(this was in Orbonne mind you, and I was on my PLD), that ended up dying on the second boss, which happens, but when I had aggro(didn't even touch Shield Oath), they told me to drop down to Sword Oath so that they could continue to MT...even after I told them I hadn't touched Shield Oath since the skeleton adds at the start because they always go after healers right away I find(always because of regen ticks of course). Even only using Royal Authority combo, it took them almost 10% of the boss' HP to get back to being MT.
    Di... didn't they use Provoke or Ultimatum?
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  3. #19653
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    I got told to "stop attacking" in expert roulette today because I kept ripping aggro off the Warrior on bosses.
    If his being in dps stance directly resulted in the actual dps doing 0 damage (as he demanded)... what benefit does he think he's adding to the group? O.o

    "I've got this guys, this is my special Stance where I trade my HP and self-heal in to wreck the parties damage output!"
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  4. #19654
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Di... didn't they use Provoke or Ultimatum?
    They did use Provoke. But I don't think they turned their tank stance back on.
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  5. #19655
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    Khorchi's Avatar
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    The Scrub
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Another day, another two stories to tell. One good and one bad.

    The bad one isn't all that long.
    Load into MSQ roulette to level up my Ninja and we load into Castrum. No one is new and we all say our hello's and hi's.
    Then the DRK from Gilgamesh chimes in and says "CM ewww. I'll try again in 30. I'm out." and immediately leaves. Seriously? Everyone else in the party was amazed that he had just bailed instantly.
    On a lighter note however, we made it to Livia in 29 mins. Sucks about his 30 min penalty lol. Maybe some people just like the Praetorium where they can enjoy 34 more decades of cutscenes. *shrug*

    Now onto the good one which has restored my faith somewhat.
    After MSQ, I load into a 50/60 roulette. Get Copperbell Mines (Hard). Wow I haven't been in this place in forever. I can definitely remember the original so I can assume it has something similar to the Normal Mode.
    Party is Me (Still NIN), DRK, SCH and RDM. The SCH is new to the dungeon and just like myself, the RDM can't remember it all that much.

    We get past the first set of mobs and we're on our way to the second when the tank just stops. Dead. I'm assuming he is typing something in chat until I see the pokeball symbol.
    I say in chat "Oh crap, Tank is DCing". Then *pop* he disappears.

    The SCH from Siren had to "brb" so the RDM from Adamantoise and I emote for a few mins before they return. We are all pretty amazed that this tank has still not come back so there might have been a storm where he was or he may have been abducted by aliens... who knows?

    So the three of us decide to see how far we can get minus a tank. It begins with a "NIN Tank = Best Tank" reference and off we go.

    Fast forward 20-25 mins later and approx. 3 wipes, we are standing outside the final boss and figuring out a way of how to get him down.
    Unfortunately, after a few attempts, we accept the fact that we need a tank. After a few milliseconds a PLD pops in and we clear the final boss in approx. 2 mins. Probably the easiest run of that PLD's life.
    I wish I could have comm'd both the SCH and RDM for being such amazing people and giving this Ninja a lot of fun <3
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    Last edited by Khorchi; 03-22-2019 at 10:27 AM. Reason: Errors

  6. #19656
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Just had a healer complain at me for "big pulls" in sastasha, because we "Have no aoe." and they wanted to dps.

    But forgive me, I think my friend the ACN's DoT's are worth more than your healer dps, and they can DoT all of them, making for more DMG.

    -grumble- Four mobs is hardly a "big pull" even in the leveling dungeons, especially with a fully geared tank that is using Rampart.
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  7. #19657
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If his being in dps stance directly resulted in the actual dps doing 0 damage (as he demanded)... what benefit does he think he's adding to the group? O.o

    "I've got this guys, this is my special Stance where I trade my HP and self-heal in to wreck the parties damage output!"
    I dunno, it was just so bizarre anyone could say that in any serious fashion outside of explaining someone a "red-light green-light" mechanic. I really wanted to say something in chat but I had a long day and a potential internet argument wasn't something I wanted so I just ignored it.
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  8. #19658
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    Sieben79's Avatar
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    Shalya Arlemoire
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Puh, was leveling my alt tank in the Vault. The trash until the first boss Adephel went fine. So the Healer got the green mark during the bossfight and dies instantly. We finished the fight without him and after the chest spawn he's asking "How can I prevent to get one shot by this mechanic?" I investigated his paperdoll and answered "better armor", he ">-<".

    His weapon was at least il110, the rest il90 and maybe some equal or higher accessories. It wasn't a nice run. At least, thanks to the dps, we made it.

    At the Dusk Vigil, I also got an Astrologian with an level 38 etheral astroglobe, and a mix of 110 and 90 armor. I recogniced it after the first pull, since he got one shot by the Myridan? (behemoth like monster) aoe.

    And the last one: At one Sohm Al run I got 2 Redmages (synced down) both with starter gear, a gather belt (sub 40), and sub 50 accessories (one ring was the newcomer ring with the % more exp until level 30). One Redmage has an empty ring slot. Healer run out of mana during the second boss fight because he hadn't lucid dreaming equipped and both redmages were dead. Awful run.
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    Last edited by Sieben79; 03-22-2019 at 05:19 PM.

  9. #19659
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Saleemius Arishiani
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    Goblin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Khorchi View Post
    Another day, another two stories to tell. One good and one bad.

    The bad one isn't all that long.
    Load into MSQ roulette to level up my Ninja and we load into Castrum. No one is new and we all say our hello's and hi's.
    Then the DRK from Gilgamesh chimes in and says "CM ewww. I'll try again in 30. I'm out." and immediately leaves. Seriously? Everyone else in the party was amazed that he had just bailed instantly.
    On a lighter note however, we made it to Livia in 29 mins. Sucks about his 30 min penalty lol. Maybe some people just like the Praetorium where they can enjoy 34 more decades of cutscenes. *shrug*

    Now onto the good one which has restored my faith somewhat.
    After MSQ, I load into a 50/60 roulette. Get Copperbell Mines (Hard). Wow I haven't been in this place in forever. I can definitely remember the original so I can assume it has something similar to the Normal Mode.
    Party is Me (Still NIN), DRK, SCH and RDM. The SCH is new to the dungeon and just like myself, the RDM can't remember it all that much.

    We get past the first set of mobs and we're on our way to the second when the tank just stops. Dead. I'm assuming he is typing something in chat until I see the pokeball symbol.
    I say in chat "Oh crap, Tank is DCing". Then *pop* he disappears.

    The SCH from Siren had to "brb" so the RDM from Adamantoise and I emote for a few mins before they return. We are all pretty amazed that this tank has still not come back so there might have been a storm where he was or he may have been abducted by aliens... who knows?

    So the three of us decide to see how far we can get minus a tank. It begins with a "NIN Tank = Best Tank" reference and off we go.

    Fast forward 20-25 mins later and approx. 3 wipes, we are standing outside the final boss and figuring out a way of how to get him down.
    Unfortunately, after a few attempts, we accept the fact that we need a tank. After a few milliseconds a PLD pops in and we clear the final boss in approx. 2 mins. Probably the easiest run of that PLD's life.
    I wish I could have comm'd both the SCH and RDM for being such amazing people and giving this Ninja a lot of fun <3
    The preatorium does give more experience points than Castrum Merdianum........that doesn't excuse the DRK's behavior by any means mind
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  10. #19660
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    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    The preatorium does give more experience points than Castrum Merdianum........that doesn't excuse the DRK's behavior by any means mind
    Does 30 mins of waiting + Praetorium still give more XP per time than Castrum Meridianum with no waiting? I suppose the answer depends on whether you can do something outside of DF that gives good XP (beast tribe dailies or such).
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