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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I don't think limiting the number of actions that can be used is the right way to do it, as seen via the role actions. Blue Mage is probably a special case, having not played it.

    Also, removing actions should not be seen as weakening the character as your stats remain relatively the same. Think of it as growing more experience and not having to do certain actions due to that increased experience (although I can understand that some removed actions are desired by some players).
    I just don't want to see MORE actions. Replace mediocre ones, but no more. I bought a new keypad just for this game, and I've pretty much used up all the available keys on it. (Even redefined the ALT key to a regular key). I can't fit any more actions unless I click them.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I just don't want to see MORE actions. Replace mediocre ones, but no more. I bought a new keypad just for this game, and I've pretty much used up all the available keys on it. (Even redefined the ALT key to a regular key). I can't fit any more actions unless I click them.
    Just curious, do you have an MMO mouse with 9-15 buttons on the side? I got one about 9 or 10 years ago now and I would never go back to a regular mouse. And it opens up a ton of hotkey options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    I just don't want to see MORE actions. Replace mediocre ones, but no more. I bought a new keypad just for this game, and I've pretty much used up all the available keys on it. (Even redefined the ALT key to a regular key). I can't fit any more actions unless I click them.
    Yeah, I can understand that. I use a controller, and I think it's been manageable, although it can be challenging trying to play dark knight for me personally. Like I said in another thread, I think 25 is an ideal number of abilities (not counting abilities that would replace other abilities depending on level or stance) while leaving room for non-combat actions for a controller.
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    while leaving room for non-combat actions for a controller.
    You can actually have the game auto swap your bars when your in/out of combat. You really only need like 2-5 abilities pre-pull and you can get away with 1. Or you can macro a button to manually switch to combat bars and just allow the auto function take you out of combat bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    You can actually have the game auto swap your bars when your in/out of combat. You really only need like 2-5 abilities pre-pull and you can get away with 1. Or you can macro a button to manually switch to combat bars and just allow the auto function take you out of combat bars.
    How to auto swap? I try not to use macros nowadays, gone crazy with them in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    How to auto swap? I try not to use macros nowadays, gone crazy with them in the past.
    function only works on controller, which from the flow so far, you play with.

    So... [O] Lit Box, [X] Unlit Box
    System > Character Settings > Hotbar Settings > Custom
    Set Selection
    [O] Enable auto hotbar switching when drawing/sheathing weapon.
    [O] Enable customization for when weapon is sheathed.
    [X] Hotbar 1 [X] Hotbar 5
    [X] Hotbar 2 [X] Hotbar 6
    [X] Hotbar 3 [O] Hotbar 7
    [X] Hotbar 4 [X] Hotbar 8
    [O] Enable customization for when weapon is drawn.
    [O] Hotbar 1 [X] Hotbar 5
    [X] Hotbar 2 [X] Hotbar 6
    [X] Hotbar 3 [X] Hotbar 7
    [X] Hotbar 4 [X] Hotbar 8

    So when I set it up like this, when ever I sheathed my weapon it would automatically turn my main hotbar to #7 from whichever I was on, and when i drew my weapon it would go to hotbar #1 from anywhere.

    Yay PS4 player taking the time learn how to use the cross hotbars even more after 5 years of playing KB&M on PS4 lol... Judge me all you want... (Yes I play KB&M on PS4)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    function only works on controller, which from the flow so far, you play with.

    So... [O] Lit Box, [X] Unlit Box
    System > Character Settings > Hotbar Settings > Custom
    Set Selection
    [O] Enable auto hotbar switching when drawing/sheathing weapon.
    [O] Enable customization for when weapon is sheathed.
    [X] Hotbar 1 [X] Hotbar 5
    [X] Hotbar 2 [X] Hotbar 6
    [X] Hotbar 3 [O] Hotbar 7
    [X] Hotbar 4 [X] Hotbar 8
    [O] Enable customization for when weapon is drawn.
    [O] Hotbar 1 [X] Hotbar 5
    [X] Hotbar 2 [X] Hotbar 6
    [X] Hotbar 3 [X] Hotbar 7
    [X] Hotbar 4 [X] Hotbar 8

    So when I set it up like this, when ever I sheathed my weapon it would automatically turn my main hotbar to #7 from whichever I was on, and when i drew my weapon it would go to hotbar #1 from anywhere.

    Yay PS4 player taking the time learn how to use the cross hotbars even more after 5 years of playing KB&M on PS4 lol... Judge me all you want... (Yes I play KB&M on PS4)
    Ah, nice. I may try that, although it might be confusing if I accidentally sheathe or unsheathe.

    I still think being able to see everything is nice, easier to do with some jobs.

    My current SAM hotbar:
    https://imgur.com/FVynpVS

    As opposed to my current DRK hotbar:
    https://imgur.com/BRjC68p

    And the necessary shared hotbar:
    https://imgur.com/uclaZ7M
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    Last edited by linay; 03-21-2019 at 06:25 AM.