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    I hope it's worth getting, it looks nice. Just hope it's stats aren't terrible like Black-Mage have str+ on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    I hope it's worth getting, it looks nice. Just hope it's stats aren't terrible like Black-Mage have str+ on it.

    As do I. I hope they put some thought into it for long term use. Not much point for anything other than achievements if makable gear is better.

    Hate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    As do I. I hope they put some thought into it for long term use. Not much point for anything other than achievements if makable gear is better.

    Hate that.
    I doubt its going to be useful in the long term, once they increase the cap it will make it all but useless I reckon.

    I'll be even surprised if its much better than materia gear.

    This dev team so far have been pretty crap at designing U/U gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    I hope it's worth getting, it looks nice. Just hope it's stats aren't terrible like Black-Mage have str+ on it.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Go...ttire_%2B2_Set

    Unless SE decides to completely ignore the fact they make proper armor sets for jobs in XI as well, I'm pretty sure there's absolutely zero reason to assume there would be +STR on any of their AF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    This dev team so far have been pretty crap at designing U/U gear.
    Not really -- The problem is people are expecting UU gear to blow away materia this early in the game's life, if you know what a full 4-5 meld materia can do..you'll be negating the actual reason materia exists. 4-5 melds is near impossible, thus the materia in itself is already balanced around that fact but the game doesn't have enough raid content to balance it out.

    Think about FFXI:

    Zilart armor was pretty top gear (which included AF) for a very long time, especially considering the some of the best gear during Vanilla/early zilart days were crafted pieces -- CoP, ToAU, WoTG and Add-ons over the years introduced more gear that eventually balanced itself and actually killed off the non-consumables market because the drop gear was so much better than what you can craft except for a few pieces -- The same thing will happen to materia, but early on they made it VERY useful so down the line it'll be mostly balanced and not killed off.

    People seem to forget that this game is being overhauled and a lot of things introduced are mostly foundation systems which they'll balance, not to mention Yoshida stating he's basically in favor of a "3 month system" other MMOs uses, i.e gear gets obsoleted very quickly, which is another reason Materia seems so overpowering currently, because they can't start throwing Relic weapons and ultimate armor at us 1 year into the game's life...what will they do later?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I think they look fine. They're transitioning from Tanaka's realistic vision of Final Fantasy to something that actually looks like a Final Fantasy game.
    Hm? Pretty sure FFVIII, FFX/X-2, FFXII, FFXIII/XIII-2 and Tactics were real Final Fantasies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Hm? Pretty sure FFVIII, FFX/X-2, FFXII, FFXIII/XIII-2 and Tactics were real Final Fantasies.
    Yeah, I see your point. It would've been more accurate to say that it is more reminiscent of the early Final Fantasy games.

    It is nice to see them change to more stylized things. But it is a bit off to see such an abrupt art shift. I hope Akihiko Yoshida is still directing the art though for 2.0, I like the sort of Ivalice feel of the whole game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Yeah, I see your point. It would've been more accurate to say that it is more reminiscent of the early Final Fantasy games. It is nice to see them change to more stylized things. But it is a bit off to see such an abrupt art shift.
    Yeah basically the very early amano/crystal era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Unless SE decides to completely ignore the fact they make proper armor sets for jobs in XI as well, I'm pretty sure there's absolutely zero reason to assume there would be +STR on any of their AF.
    I'm pretty sure there's absolutely zero reason to assume there would be +STR on any of their AF.
    zero reason to assume
    Oh, you again. Whiteknighting as usual. Does your back hurt? Lest we forget things like Agility, Charisma, and other lovely stats on mage AF so quickly. Why must you continually make mistaken comments on these forums? SE is very likely to make a mistake again and give us irrelevant stats on our AF gear. That's what they do.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Wizard%27s_Sabots
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Fighter%27s_Mask
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Healer%27s_Mitts <---------- +STR
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Healer%27s_Duckbills
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Warlock%27s_Boots
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Warlock%27s_Tabard
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Drachen_Armet
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Evoker%27s_Pigaches
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Hunter%27s_Braccae
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Hunter%27s_Beret
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Beast_Helm
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Choral_Roundlet

    It took them what, four years to realize that putting useless stats on our gear like AGI for a mage was useless? And they released the game at its state back then? You don't even play the game anymore. I don't understand your constant bagging on ANYBODY who has a legitimate concern with this game. Yeah, I can't wait to get my BLM AF gloves with DEX+ on them! Going to be so exciting!

    Please, leave the forums and go back to w/e you spend your RL hours on... Wait, nvm that's here. Just go do something else.
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    Last edited by ApplePie; 12-22-2011 at 03:00 AM.

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    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I doubt its going to be useful in the long term, once they increase the cap it will make it all but useless I reckon.

    I'll be even surprised if its much better than materia gear.

    This dev team so far have been pretty crap at designing U/U gear.
    Its already been stated that the AF gear will be better than most everything but it will be possible to make some rare melded gear that could rival some pieces. So I'm confident that AF will offer better stats as a whole for most people, plus it looks great imo.
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