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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    How is Discord not an option for people, if I may ask? Even players on PS4 can use it with the PS4 browser (as was demonstrated in the other BA thread by someone), or they can use a phone, tablet, laptop, or desktop for it. If the argument is introversion/social anxiety, I have a surplus of both and still manage to use Discord. I just stay muted; not a big deal.
    He's trolling lol. He got kicked out of Aether discord for sniping a couple of times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    He's trolling lol. He got kicked out of Aether discord for sniping a couple of times.
    Everything makes sense now.

    But we’re the mean, nasty elitist control freaks for kicking someone who blatantly broke the rules of the Discord!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    How is Discord not an option for people, if I may ask?
    Maybe because someone just doesn't want use voice tools, or hear other people, or don't understand English. Using third part tool as Discord for organize expeditions is something I have nothing against, your choice and nothing bad about it, but harassing/bad-mouth who doesn't use Discord, I don't subscribe to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Maybe because someone just doesn't want use voice tools, or hear other people, or don't understand English. Using third part tool as Discord for organize expeditions is something I have nothing against, your choice and nothing bad about it, but harassing/bad-mouth who doesn't use Discord, I don't subscribe to this.
    - talking seems to be never a requirement in chaos BA discord so far.
    - altho joining voice chat to listen to the callouts may be mandatory, it is never forced upon to anyone. There are instances where a few players dont join into the voice channel but as long as those players dont mess up mechanic it's all fine.
    - well if a player doesnt understand english or any other supported language that's gonna be tough, after all players need to cooperate in order to tackle this /overwhelming/ content.. at least in chaos data center, there exist english, french, spanish, italian, and german discord to organize BA
    - I gotta admit that it's quite sad seeing the need of discord as something mandatory to organize this kind of content but it is what it is.. this kind of content needs to be organized somehow in one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Maybe because someone just doesn't want use voice tools, or hear other people, or don't understand English. Using third part tool as Discord for organize expeditions is something I have nothing against, your choice and nothing bad about it, but harassing/bad-mouth who doesn't use Discord, I don't subscribe to this.
    Where was I advocating to bad-mouth or harass individuals that don't use Discord? Nowhere. I don't condone harassing anyone.

    Don't act like everyone from the Discords harass non-Discord users though. Quite a few of us stay silent as people hurl insults our way (I was doing this in a Pagos instance I was in yesterday where people were just ripping into anyone who had a single positive thing to say about the Discord or their experience in there).

    I merely find it ironic how some claim the Discords are so evil for kicking/banning them... when it turns out that their behavior blatantly broke the biggest Discord rule about respecting other players within the Discord and that's why they were kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Where was I advocating to bad-mouth or harass individuals that don't use Discord? Nowhere. I don't condone harassing anyone.

    Don't act like everyone from the Discords harass non-Discord users though. Quite a few of us stay silent as people hurl insults our way (I was doing this in a Pagos instance I was in yesterday where people were just ripping into anyone who had a single positive thing to say about the Discord or their experience in there).

    I merely find it ironic how some claim the Discords are so evil for kicking/banning them... when it turns out that their behavior blatantly broke the biggest Discord rule about respecting other players within the Discord and that's why they were kicked.
    thought they said he was kicked for "sniping" not being disrespectful to other players.

    which brings up the problem of an outside community/app being the main means of doing in game content. It essentially forces people to follow their rules in order to take part in game content


    its fine i suppose, communities will make their own rules, its up to SE to make sure those communities dont gate the activities. So i suppose thats why the portals are free, and they have aether flasks. So outside communities have no tools to block players from content. Other than intimidation i suppose.
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    I'm just going to blame the poor design of this content.

    A system like this was doomed to cause discord among players, and the fact that this content is on the far side of a mindless grind fest really doesn't help matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    thought they said he was kicked for "sniping" not being disrespectful to other players..
    Sniping is disrespectful to others using discord like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Sniping is disrespectful to others using discord like them.
    thats subjective. But its the discords right to kick people from their community for whatever reason they choose. Which is why discord should never be the main means of doing anything designed to be public.

    but its no big deal, the answer is, just take a portal if its available and you want to do the content. Try your best to succeed and no one can fault you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    thats subjective. But its the discords right to kick people from their community for whatever reason they choose. Which is why discord should never be the main means of doing anything designed to be public.

    but its no big deal, the answer is, just take a portal if its available and you want to do the content. Try your best to succeed and no one can fault you.
    There's no subjectivity here. You agree to certain rules when you join a group of people then you have to follow it. Not doing so is disrespectful. Just like agreeing not to loot on something. You gave up that right by agreeing and if you don't follow that agreement, GMs take actions against you.
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