Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Anarnee]

Leveling PGL on my alt cause I am tired of grinding SCH to 70 on her today.

Decided to run Halatali since I'm level 21.

The first run is slow and inefficient, but overall everything goes fine. Two of them are Green-leafs, and one is a returner.

The second run, I thought would be better, two Green-leafs and a level 61 WHM, with SCH to 60 and with BRD to 70. I thought for sure this would be better.

I was so wrong. Firstly we load in and no one does anything for a while. After a couple of mins I decide to run through the hall to the first set of adds. Everyone follows me asap like a little group of lost ducklings.

The tank runs in and starts hitting one mob and the healer heals aggro off of them, then proceeds to not even attempt to get aggro back.

After we kill the mobs I stop to type "Make sure you Flash for group aggro -Tanks name-"

They run ahead and no one says anything, so I add. "Healer should not be taking aggro"

The healer replies. "not trying too"

and so I clarify. "It's not your fault, they're not using flash"

We're doing the next set and the healer jokes. "Ill tank. lol"

I speak to the tank again. " -Name-, do you understand what you need to do?"

We're continuing on group by group and they're not doing anything to hold aggro. I have a mob, the healer has a mod, the BRD has a mob. Everyone seems to have a mob except the tank.

The BRD gets fed up. "please use flash. i shouldn't be getting aggro with one attack." and then the healer says "-Name-. Please ask questions. We here to help you."

Nothing. Nada. Silence. I look at their player info, and since I'm on PS4, I notice they are too.

I auto translate as we get to the group at the stairs. "Flash" "Can I have it."

Nothing. We kill the mobs without a single sign they'll do anything.

So I give a final warning as we're on the stairs. ":3 Please give us some sign you will do your job -name-"

Nothing. They run in pull the boss.

And the BRD proceeds to tank it. I don't know what moves they were spamming, but it wasn't generating aggro. The BRD had aggro and I'm right under them in the enmity list. The tank is lower than the healer on the list.

The BRD goes "-name- plz" and when the fight ends I just boot them. No more questions. I don't care if they're new. What fool carried them through Sastasha, copperbell and tam tara and let them think it was ok? That's not happening today.

That's not the last thing about this run that gets me either.

I go through the fire after the boss and wait for them to follow as the DF is filling the queue. No one comes behind me, so I figure we're waiting.

We decide in the chat to keep going, but the WHM and BRD are still not behind me. A WAR queues in and we greet him, and he shows up, and I'm like. WHERE ARE THE OTHER TWO?

Then I see a name plate sticking through the wall.

THE BARD AND THE WHITE MAGE RAN ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE GATE THAT THEY CANNOT GO THROUGH.

The tank tells them to return and use the shortcut. I'm face palming.

We do the next pulls like a dream. Tank is double pulling, everything is going fast.

Then we get to the second boss.

I think everything is gonna go fine.

The water lights up and I notice the WHM is just... Walking around... Letting their HP tick down.

By the time I realize they're gonna let themselves die, it's too late but I still type. "You need to get out of the water."

They die and me, the WAR and the BRD do the fight without them.

They return and run back and complain to us. "Wont let me in.."

.__. Wut. Of course it won't let you in. It says before every fight...

AREA WILL BE SEALED IN 15 SECONDS

I just reply "if you die you can't come back into a boss fight."

The rest of the run is quiet other than the chorus of thanking each other at the end.

-flops over-

My healer salt is spilling into ever facet of my game experience lmao.

[Khorchi]

(Note: I recorded this video on my PS4 and I shall now do a running play by play of the proceedings as I review them)

So I managed to get a rage quit of a healer and tank in Stone Vigil.
I've already done my levelling roulette for the day but I've been pretty bored all round for the day so I think to myself to just continue levelling up my Ninja. It won't take long and its a pretty swell sorta dungeon. I've only just hit level 41 so I feel confident.

Queue takes a little bit and it pops twice unsuccessfully before finally going through.

Party is a WAR, WHM, BLM and me (NIN).
I say my usual friendly hello and only the tank responds. It doesn't really matter but its just nice to be courteous.

As soon as everyone loads in the WHM is viewing the cutscene so I check on if the others have levelled any other classes.
WAR is Lvl 46 and has several classes to 70. DRK, WHM, DRG, RDM and all of their crafters and gatherers to 70. Nice.
WHM is new. Lvl 54 with SAM unlocked at 50 and only MNK to lvl 33. Everything else is pretty much blank.
BLM is Lvl 41 but has WAR, SCH/SMN to 70 and the crafters mixed in the mid 40s to 60.

I think to myself, okay. People who have done this before. Maybe the WHM will struggle a little but, that's to be expected. I am a WHM main so I can help them whenever they can.

WHM gets out of the cutscene, casts protect, WAR goes into tank stance and off we go.
From the time the WAR pulls to when he is laying on the floor... is 18 seconds.

The first Cure II that the WHM cast, hit the WAR for 259 health. When he originally has 3500 HP. The first hit that the WAR took was a 421 Crit.
The two Cure II and two Cure's that the WHM gave to the tank healed him for a total of about 820 health. Kinda why he went down like an elephant on a meteor.
He types in the chat "lolwut"

Because I'm DPSing like only a NIN can, I have all the aggro. I try my best to get the first dragon down before I'm overwhelmed. But unfortunately, I'm overcome pretty much straight away with only 1600 health. I try to make the best of a bad situation by typing "Reset. Start again lol." Followed by "Take two. Take two is always the best take"

The Healer is then shocked as to why their heals were dealing out Cure's that were so low. The healer says in chat "My heals are only healing for 30".
It is this point that I check the gear of the healer. And... everything checks out ok. Healer gear from when you complete the level 50 quest. Level 45 weapon but its still high enough for this dungeon at least.
While I am checking the WHM's gear. They leave the dungeon. Nothing was said after the "healing for 30" comment from the WHM.
The tank now chimes in with "... What the hell?"
Well now I at least have time to check the gear of the WAR. Level 41 weapon. Okay. Good so far. Mix of 45 and 40 gear on the left with a level 32 belt. Not bad, lets take a look at his right si- Oh its all grey.
The iLvl 5 weathered ring (Oh god... now I see who the problem is), the Lvl 1 "Brand New Ring" (iLvl 30), Lvl 18 Bracelets, iLvl 5 Weathered Choker and iLvl 20 earrings.
The WHM has every right to be salty. Their lowest level item that the WHM was wearing (a Lvl 49 ring) had more stats than 3 of his accessories.

I am about to type something to the tank about their accessories to see if they have any other jewellery in their armoury chest since they have a DRK to 70, maybe there was something still laying around in there.
But the BLM chimes in with "do a small pull and we'll burn them b4 you die."
Now I am normally a pretty optimistic person... but the tank died AT THE FIRST SET OF MOBS. LEGITIMATELY THE FIRST MONSTER KILLED HIM IN RECORD TIME.
But before I can type anything to the chat, the tank pulls the mobs again. Okay. Lets see how fast this time goes *gets out stopwatch*.
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With myself stunning the first mob and all 3 of us focusing on it, it goes down after a fairly decent battle.
Then the tank dies. 23 seconds into the second pull.
Myself and the BLM start to get the 2nd mob down but even with Second Wind and a potion downed, I die while its at 41%.
The tank then pipes up and says "Screw this. Bad healers all night and now one that bails too? I'm gonna call it for tonight."
I then quickly type to the WAR saying that it might be because of his right side of his gear as to why he wasn't getting proper heals.
I manage to just get the message away before he quits the dungeon followed closely after by the BLM.

So now its just me. Scratching my head as to what the hell just transpired over the last 3 mins.
Yes everything you can read above you happened in THREE MINUTES.

Luckily after a few mins of waiting I get a MCH, DRK and WHM and the entire run was a breeze.

Seriously though... as much as I am a WHM main... you can't heal stupid.

[Seraph522]

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That first tank sounded like a bot (lack of communication, inability to play in anyway approaching competency, failure to move at the start until you do, etc.); it could be a PS4 player who's just incompetent, but some of those remarks make me think 'bot'.

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Honestly, it sounds more like the tank's gear was broken than any problem with right side gear. Up until level 50, right side gear tends to be somewhat sparsely available, as you need to go through the market board to get anything from 30-49, and the stat boosts they provide are relatively small. They certainly don't affect damage taken, by any means; even if they provide Vitality, that only affects max HP. In contrast, if the tank's gear was broken, not only would they take massive damage, but healing wouldn't be very effective on them either, as they'd effectively have no Tenacity stat. Mind you, this is why there's a warning when you sign up for the Duty Finder with nearly-broken gear, so it's definitely still the tank's fault for not repairing their armor.

[Lilseph]

Honestly, it sounds more like the tank's gear was broken than any problem with right side gear. Up until level 50, right side gear tends to be somewhat sparsely available, as you need to go through the market board to get anything from 30-49, and the stat boosts they provide are relatively small. They certainly don't affect damage taken, by any means; even if they provide Vitality, that only affects max HP. In contrast, if the tank's gear was broken, not only would they take massive damage, but healing wouldn't be very effective on them either, as they'd effectively have no Tenacity stat. Mind you, this is why there's a warning when you sign up for the Duty Finder with nearly-broken gear, so it's definitely still the tank's fault for not repairing their armor.

I used STR accs to level my way up with my 2 tanks (PLD and WAR) on an alt account. Had zero issues. Your guess is similar to mine, maybe the healer's gear was broken, maybe the tank's gear was. When the healer said "my heals are only healing for 30..." nothing in the tank's gear would make such a dramatic reduction of healing. Even if they were naked.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

I just got a lv60 Astrologian in Satasha (leveling roulette) who conveniently discovered right before the final boss that he had buttons other than Protect, Benefic, and Malefic. His general inexperience with the class and attire definitely makes me think that he's a level booster, and the delay between actions was honestly worse than what I expect going into the first dungeon. It's definitely foreboding for when the expansion drops and a new player willing to drop the money could have a lv60 dungeon as their first combat experience in the game.

[Seraph522]

I used STR accs to level my way up with my 2 tanks (PLD and WAR) on an alt account. Had zero issues. Your guess is similar to mine, maybe the healer's gear was broken, maybe the tank's gear was. When the healer said "my heals are only healing for 30..." nothing in the tank's gear would make such a dramatic reduction of healing. Even if they were naked.

It could have been both, of course, though with all the damage the tank was taking after the first healer left suggests that the tank definitely had broken gear issues.

Meanwhile, a story of my own: just got out of an Expert Roulette run through the Burn. I noticed quickly that things were dying rather slowly, so I start checking gear. Tank's fine, healer's fine... oh wait, our DRG has all Ryumyaku armor (fine for the Burn) and a Lost Allagan weapon (i330). Joy. Worse, I'm pretty sure they had absolutely no idea how to use their skills: never saw Nastrond, don't think I ever saw a single Jump skill, and I definitely never saw an AoE combo. Pretty much had to provide all the DPS for the run, which was not fun. At least I got two comms out of it (I think the tank and healer were grouped together, as they were both Lalas from the same server, which was probably why, though I appreciated it nonetheless).

[Khorchi]

Mind you, this is why there's a warning when you sign up for the Duty Finder with nearly-broken gear, so it's definitely still the tank's fault for not repairing their armor.

I completely agree with you that the Tank's gear was pretty broken, but also most likely the healer's gear would have been broken too to only heal at 250 for one heal in Stone Vigil.

It wasn't really a complaint at just the tank, it was just the bad 3 mins that felt like 15 mins. Just head scratching at everyone in general. Lol.

[Aosha]

I completely agree with you that the Tank's gear was pretty broken, but also most likely the healer's gear would have been broken too to only heal at 250 for one heal in Stone Vigil.

It wasn't really a complaint at just the tank, it was just the bad 3 mins that felt like 15 mins. Just head scratching at everyone in general. Lol.

Could you check the replay, and relay the max HP of each team member here? That could shed some light on the situation.

[Khorchi]

Could you check the replay, and relay the max HP of each team member here? That could shed some light on the situation.

Max HP as we start the dungeon.
NIN (Me): 1698
WAR: 3535
WHM: 1460
BLM: 1654

[MetalSnakeXI1]

2 days ago I had what is........probably the weirdest if not the stupidest trial roullette I had in a while

So I get Thornmarch as AST, and almost immediately as we pull the RDM in our party starts trashing the warrior for no reason, a back and forth between the two continues to the point that when King Moogle Mog appeared they didn't seperate the king from the rest and thus we wipe.

The RDM gets vote kicked for harassment and then the Warrior just opened his mouth and was like "LMAO DOODS THAT GUY WAS WITH ME WE WERE JUST ****ING AROUND"

Me and most of the party were so flabbergasted by this and were like "Gee,it's like we cant read minds or something"

Not at one point did the dumb warrior and his friend make any hint of clarity that they were just memeing(and trust me I've seen people meme about each other in more clearer manner than this), and considering people's history with harassment and insults in this game I honestly don't know what else did he expect to happen

We finish it, I tell the warrior "next time if you two want to meme,make it a little clearer", and I get five comms out of this whole ordeal somehow.

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