WHUT?!weaponskill animations gone ? Another ARC pigeon hole content.

[Zezlar]

Hmmm, on parser for Mog fight I was the #1 DD at the end (even though we still lost). Don't give me that we need 5 archers shit. Be better at your job.

[Mihana]

A note for those who want to gripe about Archers doing better damage... Between the two classes I have at 50 (PGL and ARC) I find Pugilist easier to take on some mobs and survive. Archer? Pfft... Run around like a nut until you can pull away far enough to dish out a combo. Personally I do believe I'm doing more damage as Archer. Yet people forget, Marauder, Lancer, Gladiator, etc... They're not paying to deal damage to their targets. Each arrow we shoot we're tossing away gil. Currently the best arrows, cobalt, can go up to 64G or more per arrow. Seems like chump change I suppose, yet isn't exactly that way for the few of us who play Archer as our main jobs.

Oh and before it's said, I'm not complaining about having to spend gil to play archer. It's my favorite class aside from Conjurer on my alt, and I'd play it regardless if I had to pay for my arrows or not. I just mean to point out for those bitching about archer damage compared to the other classes.

[WiiSam]

Hmmm, on parser for Mog fight I was the #1 DD at the end (even though we still lost). Don't give me that we need 5 archers shit. Be better at your job.

yeh but....you lost...just because you do the most dmg doesn't mean you're the most efficient. Archers are ranged, good dd, survive, etc all that bs.

Wait did you say you lost? Here's what you can do for me, when you do win, without archer stacking (because im hoping there aren't 4 archers in your party and number 5 dd is you, the lancer) send me the video and i'll send you one that does the fight quicker, better, cleaner, than yours, with 5 archers.

[Zezlar]

yeh but....you lost...just because you do the most dmg doesn't mean you're the most efficient. Archers are ranged, good dd, survive, etc all that bs.

Wait did you say you lost? Here's what you can do for me, when you do win, without archer stacking (because im hoping there aren't 4 archers in your party and number 5 dd is you, the lancer) send me the video and i'll send you one that does the fight quicker, better, cleaner, than yours, with 5 archers.

Just won and received a Mog Bow for my efforts (Check my history). It takes strategy and skill. Not a fist full of Archers.

Also, I could care less if you can kill faster or slower than my group. The thing is we won, and that's all that matters. Now i'll use my knowledge and help someone else win instead of being an elitist who believes that Archer is the only way (because it is in fact not, my good man).

[KumaAkuma]

No one ever said it wasn't the only way with Arc, it's the easy way and it shouldn't be.

[Zezlar]

No one ever said it wasn't the only way with Arc, it's the easy way and it shouldn't be.

Yeah, but it's downright wrong to flat out deny people access because certain people follow elitist methods. Perfectly good players can't even attempt the fight because of those people.

[Alerith]

People here scream "Efficiency!" The same way Tanaka screams "Balance!" As he butchers FFXI...

[WiiSam]

No one ever said it wasn't the only way with Arc, it's the easy way and it shouldn't be.

He missed the point, again. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to say. Class stacking should always be a GIMP, not the BEST way to kill something. Almost every other mmo patches class stacking very quickly, people still do it, but its RETARDED to do it because it is so painful and takes so long, but some people get so bored they do it for fun.

Please try to udnerstand us. You can kill whatever you want with whatever class makeup you want, we all understand that, but it is too painful for most people to do it without 5 Archers. and it shouldn't be that way. Ever.

[Drex]

Nah. Just people going "OMFG ARC IS EZ MODE! LULZ"

^ this

is not that the lncs, the mrds or the pugs do less dps then arc now, the problem is that melees have much more troubles to keep high dps then arcs (movement, positions, range, etc..), this brings poeple to prefer the easy way = only arcs.

I think Yoshi needs to find a balance in this issue, the dps classes calculation is kinda equilibrated now, the difficulty to do dps between the classes is not.

[Corrderio]

I think the best way to remedy this is removing the bullcrap directional thing to do a combo. I don't mind direction for bonus, but no way it should be the way to start a combo.

Or give each class/job an exclusive PT buff to make them more useful.