Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
Yes it is relevant because you're using incentive rewards as an argument to not introduce more class mounts. If the incentive doesn't work then your argument falls. You are contradicting yourself by saying it's irrelevant.
It is not a contradiction to say its irrelevant.

The entire reason for "Class" mounts to exist is purely to get more Tanks into DF. That is why they are locked behind achievements on said Tanks to play in DF.

Whether or not this has a notable effect on the number of players who opt to play Tank instead of DPS/Healer is irrelevant because it doesn't change the fact that they exist purely to try and get more people playing Tanks.

Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
Unless SE grant an insane and useful reward for tanking such as a free house or millions of gil, nothing will ever have the desired impact. No cosmetic rewards, especially when they're just a skin of a feature everyone already has access to, will ever noticeably increase the tank population. No matter how cool a thing looks there will always be a lot of people who don't think it's worth the stress of tanking.
But at the same time, they're not going to remove an incentive to play Tank just because it's not a big enough draw for some people to play Tank.

Like, the fact that the current rewards only require you to grind out a certain number of Roulettes, means that once you're done, you're free to never play said Tank again in your life. Which ultimately means it doesn't affect the Tank population outside of the slight increase of Tanks in DF during the period when people are grinding these achievements out.

As it stands, class mounts are limited only to ones that promote playing Tank in DF and CNJ's Unicorn. It's unlikely that this will change even if the Tank ones aren't making a bunch of people swap over to being Tank mains. Especially given how half of the achievements can actually be done by soloing level 50 trials as a Tank class (I recently got an achievement when I was running EX Trials for the ARR Ponies for example)

Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
So if it doesn't work why punish all the other classes by not letting them have unique mounts as well?
So your solution is to now punish Tanks?

Given that they would have to grind out DF while Tanking to obtain their class mounts while everyone else gets to not have to do this for theirs?

Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
The likelihood on it happening probably hinges far more on the amount of time and money SE would have to spend designing so many new mounts than whether or not they are concerned if adding more class mounts would somehow reduce the tank population or the incentive to tank. I don't know about you but I have literally never heard of anyone who took up tanking just because they wanted a specific mount. I haven't even heard of anyone playing cnj just for the unicorn. Not saying it doesn't happen but it's definitely not common.
Just because people don't take up tanking/CNJ for a specific mount doesn't preclude the reasoning that they have added the Tank mounts for a specific reason, which is to help with DF queues.

It's very likely that Gunbreaker will also get a mount for grinding out DF content too, because it's a further way to entice people, if only temporarily, to play Tank to improve DF queues.

As far as the time and money into developing new mounts... It's not as if SE don't already put aside time and money to implement new mounts. It's also not as if they'd need to add in mounts for all 11 jobs at the same time either, they could just add them when they feel that their idea is worth adding to the game and then create a way to obtain them in the game (Such as something as feeble as the Unicorn quest)

I mean, they added in the CNJ mount years ago. SCH and AST have never gotten a mount, even though healers are also a fairly underpopulated role for DF too. Logically if they didn't care about whether or not people were incentivized to play Tank in DF they'd have at the very least added some WHM/SCH/AST mounts to entice people into playing healer in DF too, if not just remove the Tank mounts from their achievements and stick them into the Achievement/Veteran vendor place.