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    Quote Originally Posted by Vix View Post
    I just built a new rig as well.
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    8gigs ripjaw DDR3 1600
    SLI GTX 460's
    80gig intel SSD
    Corsair H70 liquid cooler
    Corsair 750w PSU
    MSI-P67GDA mobo

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    1080p
    4x AA
    Max drawing
    Ambient Occlusion off
    DoF off
    Max textures
    Shadows off

    Unfortunately my overall impression is disappointment(I spent a nice chunk of change on this machine). At these settings I get 55-60 fps in the field, and 35-50 in town. The video cards are an extreme bottleneck. My CPU sitting at stock speeds hovers around 40% usage with slight bumps in the 60's. So no need to overclock it. I did get a stable prime95@ 4.8 with it, but tuned it down to 4.5 since I was more comfortable with 1.275v and just this morning I shut it off completely.However at those speeds it really only dropped my CPU usage to mid 30's. And I saw no improvement really, so at the time im writing this...Im at stock speed. When my GPU's are no longer the bottleneck, I will overclock the rig again.

    As for my thoughts on ram: Anything past 1600mhz ram is pointless unless your benchmarking and want that extra .2% in your score.

    SSD: absolutely worth it! I dual log XIV, one with a traditional drive; times between zones is definitely noticeable. Login is also significantly faster on the SSD rig.

    By toggling shadows on/off I really only see a 2-3 FPS increase, honestly I think they suck so they are off anyways...but thats just me. I forgot my FFXIV benchmark, I think it was 4450ish @high resolution. I suppose for folks who are curios I can do one with and one without the overclock. But The true bottle neck is the GTX460's. So if your going to buy a video card, dont bother with two cheap ones. One expensive card, (while scores less on future mark) will allow you to get a nice mate for it later on down the road. AS for me, Im really buthurt about my GTX460's cause all I heard was, "Runs my game great!" BS. Im a perfectionist, and I want 60fps on max settings. Ill wait till the 600 or 700 series cards come out. Hopefully we will see a real improvement, because the last few generations from ATI and Nvidea have been a real disappointment in improvement. What happened to Moores law?

    PS how did you get the game to run in 3d on your nvidea glasses? I got me a pair as well.
    Oh COOL! another SLI person. I am really curious to know which SLI profile you are using first off. Because this makes a really big differencce. Yeah I will be honest even with 2 GTX 570 I still take a hit at times. For some reason this game is really tough on cards, at least in a SLI aspect because there is no true SLI profile. I believe the one I am using was possibly made for crisis and I just cut and paste it over. Another thing is I think maybe it may be limitations to your 460's though they are not terrible cards, they are no 6690, and GTX 590, or even a 470 or 480 for that matter. You may need to cut your losses and just get a new single card after. Oh as far as Nvidia 3D I have a 120hz monitor which I am sure you know you need, all I did was did the setup in the Nvidia Control Panel. Enable it. And after the game loads up press the hot key that is set in the control panel to play. For me it is CTR+T. You can even set it to run as the game loads through the Nvidia control panel. Keep in mind that also takes a small hit on resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Point_Zero View Post
    I am really curious to know which SLI profile you are using first off. Because this makes a really big differencce....

    .... Oh as far as Nvidia 3D I have a 120hz monitor which I am sure you know you need, all I did was did the setup in the Nvidia Control Panel. Enable it. And after the game loads up press the hot key that is set in the control panel to play.
    I tried to use a cut/paste profile that I found online from about 6 months ago, but I couldn't get it to load w/o an error.
    Dismayed, I assumed this meant the game wasn't running in SLI, but when I did the benchmark the other day...I saw that both GPU's were running. 90-95% on GPU1 and 80-85% on GPU2. So whatever its doing...its the default settings. Now to be fair...I did this benchmark POST server shutdown and I haven't officially seen my GPU usage in game. Ill know in a couple days for sure what my in game usage is doing.

    AS for 3d... interesting, I installed the glasses and tried to play the game. I didnt do the "CTRL+T". Maybe thats why they didnt activate 3d mode. Im looking forward to trying it. After all, thats why I got these glasses. And yes, I have a 120hz Alienware monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vix View Post
    I tried to use a cut/paste profile that I found online from about 6 months ago, but I couldn't get it to load w/o an error.
    Dismayed, I assumed this meant the game wasn't running in SLI, but when I did the benchmark the other day...I saw that both GPU's were running. 90-95% on GPU1 and 80-85% on GPU2. So whatever its doing...its the default settings. Now to be fair...I did this benchmark POST server shutdown and I haven't officially seen my GPU usage in game. Ill know in a couple days for sure what my in game usage is doing.

    AS for 3d... interesting, I installed the glasses and tried to play the game. I didnt do the "CTRL+T". Maybe thats why they didnt activate 3d mode. Im looking forward to trying it. After all, thats why I got these glasses. And yes, I have a 120hz Alienware monitor.
    The best way to get the profile working without an error is to get the drivers downloaded again from Nvidia. Even if they are the same ones. From there in the instalation you choose custom install, and at the bottom there you choose clean install. This will remove all the "user specified" stuff that is most likely giving you the error when you go to import.
    From there you run the "Ge-Force Sli Profile Tool" and export the txt file. The text file you export is now a clean one with no changes to it. Open the text and put and find the FFXIV profile. Replace all the values under it with these

    Setting ID_0x0076e164 = 0x00000009
    Setting ID_0x00a06946 = 0x000240f5
    Setting ID_0x1033cec1 = 0x00000003
    Setting ID_0x1033cec2 = 0x00000002
    Setting ID_0x1033dcd2 = 0x00000004
    Setting ID_0x1033dcd3 = 0x00000004
    Setting ID_0x10930f46 = 0x00000089
    Setting ID_0x1095def8 = 0x02506405
    Setting ID_0x10ecdb82 = 0x00040000

    save and import. You should get no errors on the import. It should work fine after that. Well a lot better than before. The thing about SLI is it will work in windowed mode also! Unlike Xfire. However it does run a little better in Fullscreen mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Point_Zero View Post
    ......From there you run the "Ge-Force Sli Profile Tool" and export the txt file. The text file you export is now a clean one with no changes to it. Open the text and put and find the FFXIV profile. Replace all the values under it with these

    Setting ID_0x0076e164 = 0x00000009
    Setting ID_0x00a06946 = 0x000240f5
    Setting ID_0x1033cec1 = 0x00000003
    Setting ID_0x1033cec2 = 0x00000002
    Setting ID_0x1033dcd2 = 0x00000004
    Setting ID_0x1033dcd3 = 0x00000004
    Setting ID_0x10930f46 = 0x00000089
    Setting ID_0x1095def8 = 0x02506405
    Setting ID_0x10ecdb82 = 0x00040000

    save and import. You should get no errors on the import. It should work fine after that. Well a lot better than before. The thing about SLI is it will work in windowed mode also! Unlike Xfire. However it does run a little better in Fullscreen mode.

    Worked great! Much thanks!
    An instant 800 point jump!

    Physx set to GPU:

    Physx set to CPU:


    I noticed about a 10% average increase in CPU usage with physx allocated to it, yet only a 20pt increase in score. So no real difference. I don't think there's really anything more I can do to increase the score. Outside of new GPU's. For fun Ill overclock the rig one more time and see if that does anything.

    Bottom line:
    The SLI fix you gave me worked surprisingly nice! Cant wait to see if your tips on activating 3d will work! Ill send you a PM if I need help with that in a few days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vix View Post
    Worked great! Much thanks!
    An instant 800 point jump!

    Physx set to GPU:

    Physx set to CPU:


    I noticed about a 10% average increase in CPU usage with physx allocated to it, yet only a 20pt increase in score. So no real difference. I don't think there's really anything more I can do to increase the score. Outside of new GPU's. For fun Ill overclock the rig one more time and see if that does anything.

    Bottom line:
    The SLI fix you gave me worked surprisingly nice! Cant wait to see if your tips on activating 3d will work! Ill send you a PM if I need help with that in a few days
    Sure but dont stress yourself it is a lot easier than you can imagine just find the hot key it is set to turn it on, or in the Nvidia control panel you can even set it to start when the game runs its called. "Hide stereoscopic 3d effect when game starts" if that is checked it wont load games with the default on. Uncheck that if you want it to load up without having to use the hot key. But yeah that 800 point jump is nice ^^ 800 points is quite a nice improvement.
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