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    Quote Originally Posted by KotMruczyslaw View Post
    I'm here to sign for this too.

    And if SE doesn't care about us (players with Steam accounts who are complaining about Steam client) maybe it's a good moment to quit playing Final Fantasy XIV? Especially when it's still possible to refund Shadowbreakers. If nothing will change SE's mind i think it's worth considering.
    I'm in a rather complicated situation at this point: few years ago, when i was at work, my GF registered to FFXIV using my Steam account (i had bought it but 've never played it before). I learned about this when i was trying to play something on Steam and i couldn't because i was already logged in on another PC. Then we've learned that it's possible to play FFXIV using non-Steam client. So we've downloaded it and everything was great... till now. Now i've learned that if she wants to play the game she has to start using my account on Steam or to create new for her. But she doesn't agree to the Steam regulations, and the first option is limiting my access to my Steam account. And forcing her to agree to Steam regulations against her will is IMHO illegal! Also - during registration - she didn't get any message explaining to her that she's registering using Steam and if she doesn't want to be screwed few years laters she should stop. It has not been clearly (and at all) explained.

    BTW - this year SE updated list of prohibitet behaviours in FFXIV (full list here: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1). And what if forcing someone to play through Steam against his will "inflicts deep emotional distress" on that person? It's violation of "Other actions that are generally regarded as actions that inflict deep emotional distress on another person" in harassment section. Also this notice (https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...dbc6429f507050) should also be considered as an offensive expression. It matches "Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person" and "Expressions that compel a playing style" - maybe it's someone's playing style to play directly without using Steam? And for certain it is typical example of Obstruction of play - "if you are not running FFXIV through Steam we won't let you play".
    In one short message 3 violations of prohibitet behaviours - maybe whole Square Enix's crew should be permamently banned for that? Because even those who make the law should obey the law. If not, who would we be? Savages!
    There are about a million things wrong with your accusations. Sure, Steam is stupid and this change is dumb, but you are accusing them of completely indirect harassment that is beyond their control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDeathXR View Post
    There are about a million things wrong with your accusations. Sure, Steam is stupid and this change is dumb, but you are accusing them of completely indirect harassment that is beyond their control.
    Write at least half a milion things wrong with my what-if scenarios . "Beyond their control" you say? I doubt it - i have an account in torchlight 2 and neverwinter online and there is no such problem with them. So that's why i think it's not only Valve's fault, but SE's too - after all both parties must agree to the contract. Besides, it is not Steam that tells loyal players "if you don't like it then quit"...
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