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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    what you call rude, is them saying that they disagree with your outside of game philosophy.

    What you conceive of as her "crimes" is "stealing" portals that actually dont belong to anybody.
    To be fair, taken out of context Mirabelle's line reads as "I know you have a premade group and I will intentionally attempt to disrupt your gameplay", which is pretty much harassment. But I don't know how this Discord group behaves and how badly are they trying to monopolize the portals. I haven't been anywhere close to BA either so I have no idea how frequently the portals appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    To be fair, taken out of context Mirabelle's line reads as "I know you have a premade group and I will intentionally attempt to disrupt your gameplay", which is pretty much harassment. But I don't know how this Discord group behaves and how badly are they trying to monopolize the portals. I haven't been anywhere close to BA either so I have no idea how frequently the portals appear.
    Base portals appear after Ovni is killed, providing no one is in BA Ovni is on a 20 minute or so timer, and you have like 12 minutes to kill it so the first 48 will spawn every 25-30 minutes as long as no one is in BA. If someone is in BA, the second set of 8 will usually spawn 35-40 minutes or so into the run, depending on how fast or slow the run is.
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    to be fair, disupting your play in this context is playing as the game intended.

    this is almost exactly like asking someone to please requeue duty finder because you would like to get your friend in the instance. Its the discord group whose playstyle is outside of game design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    to be fair, disupting your play in this context is playing as the game intended.

    this is almost exactly like asking someone to please requeue duty finder because you would like to get your friend in the instance. Its the discord group whose playstyle is outside of game design.
    The "as the game intended" argument is getting old, it's a pointless argument as the intended way simply doesn't work correctly for most of the world due to various differences. Your argument is pretty empty and it's the same argument trolls employ. If you have to argue "It's as the game intended" in English, you've already lost the argument.
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    to be fair, disupting your play in this context is playing as the game intended.

    this is almost exactly like asking someone to please requeue duty finder because you would like to get your friend in the instance. Its the discord group whose playstyle is outside of game design.
    Are you saying SE intended that players take a portal for the purpose of disrupting the game play of other players? Because you can't pretend that never happens. And it's true you can't prove intentions here. But that does happen and in same cases it's reportable (like taking a portal and leaveing). Even though they took the portal as SE intended, they still got reported after leaving.

    The main issue that people are having are with those that do it with the intention of disrupting others' game play. There are players that actively leave and requeue into an instance till they find names the recognize and know they're in the discord. If you wanna turn a blind eye and say that doesn't happen, that's up to you. But you can't say that everyone that's taking a portal is playing as SE intended. It's like saying you're OK with people joining a raid clear group (since they don't have [Duty Complete] tag) even if you're completely new to the raid, just because SE allows it.

    P.S. you can edit your post to surpass character limit. That will help you in putting all your responses into one post instead of many posts so that you don't exceed your daily post limit.
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