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  1. #19451
    Player
    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph522 View Post
    Maybe. Even there, one would think that you'd at least see all the cool abilities you can learn as a job and seek out ways to get those abilities when you don't get them just by leveling up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    You would think, but hiding things in plain sight is easier than people realize, sometimes. Also sometimes people can't be assed to look beyond, well, their own butt cracks.
    (4)

  2. #19452
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Been leveling an alt with my friend the last 2 weeks, just got through ARR with em and I decided to do some roulettes while they went to bed so I didn't let em go to waste, I que for 50/60 roulette and I get Amdapor Keep HM. We say hello, I'm healing on WHM, tank is a PLD, 2 DPS are BRD/NIN I notice that the BRD and NINs hp are really low like 2.4k-2.6k I look at their gear and dear lord it's ilvl 30-40 with a mix of INT/STR/DEX gear all over the place and the weapons are the ones you buy from your GC. I'm just already dreading this but it's like 2am my time so I said well maybe I can Holy things and speed this up and I sorta did but not really, I brought my A game and was popping X-Ethers, Lucid, the whole nines and the NIN and BRD didn't AoE, got hit by every AoE, it was so aggravating.

    The tank was in ilvl 90 gear which is fine you get it from your 50 job quest in the end and he had some ironworks accs but what really really made me mad was I asked the DPS "Hey guys you know you get your ilvl 90 gear from your job quests right?" The NIN responds with "We know we just didn't equip it" LIKE WHY WOULDN"T YOU!? There's 0 reason for you not to equip it on the spot it's utter insanity why a reasonable person wouldn't just equip it.

    We get to first boss, I explain the mechanics (I told them this is an alt I can give you pointers), hide behind a pillar when you get a red mark on your head to channel the lightning into the statues, the NIN gets picked and literally ate 2 ticks *poof* dead, I Swiftcast NIN says "??? heal hello?", I'm like dude you need to hide behind the statues, he gets picked again, eats 2 ticks dead again. The BRD is now yelling at me to heal him wtf are you doing, I said I explained the mechanics you guys need to hide or you die if you had actual gear you'd survive more than 2 seconds, we wipe because the PLD just eats it all as I'm yelling to run behind a statue okay round 2. We wipe twice after that and the a vote abandon happens, I click yes because I can't have these DPS who aren't properly geared and know they could have been proper in here but chose not to, before we abandon the BRD goes "get me out of this hell hole and give us an actual healer lol" and the NIN responds with "does your main suck as bad as your alt at healing?".

    This right here just made me so mad the DPS didn't come in properly geared, stood in AoE, didn't use any of their abilities (songs, ninjitsu, DoTs etc) yet I'm the one who is the bad one and they're wearing ilvl 30 Haukke Manor pinks, lvl 30 something GC weapons, INT/MND boots, I don't get how people can be so clueless about a game and blame others for their short comings. This was probably the worst experience I've had since playing this game in ARR I'm honestly lost for words.
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  3. #19453
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    This right here just made me so mad the DPS didn't come in properly geared, stood in AoE, didn't use any of their abilities (songs, ninjitsu, DoTs etc) yet I'm the one who is the bad one and they're wearing ilvl 30 Haukke Manor pinks, lvl 30 something GC weapons, INT/MND boots, I don't get how people can be so clueless about a game and blame others for their short comings. This was probably the worst experience I've had since playing this game in ARR I'm honestly lost for words.
    It's easier to foist off blame on someone else than to take the needed two seconds to do some self introspection sadly. Either they were ignorant of what this game entails or deliberately trolling. Given the argument against equipping better gear and the refusal to listen to your instructions on how to handle the big bad death beam, it's likely some combination of the two - and a direct lack of regard for other people and an unwillingness to learn is a /nasty/ combination. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that...
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  4. #19454
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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    Kheeziah Toastie
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Been leveling an alt with my friend the last 2 weeks, just got through ARR with em and I decided to do some roulettes while they went to bed so I didn't let em go to waste, I que for 50/60 roulette and I get Amdapor Keep HM. We say hello, I'm healing on WHM, tank is a PLD, 2 DPS are BRD/NIN I notice that the BRD and NINs hp are really low like 2.4k-2.6k I look at their gear and dear lord it's ilvl 30-40 with a mix of INT/STR/DEX gear all over the place and the weapons are the ones you buy from your GC. I'm just already dreading this but it's like 2am my time so I said well maybe I can Holy things and speed this up and I sorta did but not really, I brought my A game and was popping X-Ethers, Lucid, the whole nines and the NIN and BRD didn't AoE, got hit by every AoE, it was so aggravating.

    The tank was in ilvl 90 gear which is fine you get it from your 50 job quest in the end and he had some ironworks accs but what really really made me mad was I asked the DPS "Hey guys you know you get your ilvl 90 gear from your job quests right?" The NIN responds with "We know we just didn't equip it" LIKE WHY WOULDN"T YOU!? There's 0 reason for you not to equip it on the spot it's utter insanity why a reasonable person wouldn't just equip it.

    We get to first boss, I explain the mechanics (I told them this is an alt I can give you pointers), hide behind a pillar when you get a red mark on your head to channel the lightning into the statues, the NIN gets picked and literally ate 2 ticks *poof* dead, I Swiftcast NIN says "??? heal hello?", I'm like dude you need to hide behind the statues, he gets picked again, eats 2 ticks dead again. The BRD is now yelling at me to heal him wtf are you doing, I said I explained the mechanics you guys need to hide or you die if you had actual gear you'd survive more than 2 seconds, we wipe because the PLD just eats it all as I'm yelling to run behind a statue okay round 2. We wipe twice after that and the a vote abandon happens, I click yes because I can't have these DPS who aren't properly geared and know they could have been proper in here but chose not to, before we abandon the BRD goes "get me out of this hell hole and give us an actual healer lol" and the NIN responds with "does your main suck as bad as your alt at healing?".

    This right here just made me so mad the DPS didn't come in properly geared, stood in AoE, didn't use any of their abilities (songs, ninjitsu, DoTs etc) yet I'm the one who is the bad one and they're wearing ilvl 30 Haukke Manor pinks, lvl 30 something GC weapons, INT/MND boots, I don't get how people can be so clueless about a game and blame others for their short comings. This was probably the worst experience I've had since playing this game in ARR I'm honestly lost for words.
    I believe the adage, "you can't heal stupid" is entirely appropriate here.
    (18)

  5. #19455
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Saleemius Arishiani
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post

    We get to first boss, I explain the mechanics (I told them this is an alt I can give you pointers), hide behind a pillar when you get a red mark on your head to channel the lightning into the statues, the NIN gets picked and literally ate 2 ticks *poof* dead, I Swiftcast NIN says "??? heal hello?", I'm like dude you need to hide behind the statues, he gets picked again, eats 2 ticks dead again. The BRD is now yelling at me to heal him wtf are you doing, I said I explained the mechanics you guys need to hide or you die if you had actual gear you'd survive more than 2 seconds, we wipe because the PLD just eats it all as I'm yelling to run behind a statue okay round 2. We wipe twice after that and the a vote abandon happens, I click yes because I can't have these DPS who aren't properly geared and know they could have been proper in here but chose not to, before we abandon the BRD goes "get me out of this hell hole and give us an actual healer lol" and the NIN responds with "does your main suck as bad as your alt at healing?".

    This right here just made me so mad the DPS didn't come in properly geared, stood in AoE, didn't use any of their abilities (songs, ninjitsu, DoTs etc) yet I'm the one who is the bad one and they're wearing ilvl 30 Haukke Manor pinks, lvl 30 something GC weapons, INT/MND boots, I don't get how people can be so clueless about a game and blame others for their short comings. This was probably the worst experience I've had since playing this game in ARR I'm honestly lost for words.
    As an Astrologian who went through this exact type of people 3 times in a row yesterday......I feel your pain

    Being a healer is the definition of a thankless job because it's oh so easy for people to toss the blame on the healer for their missteps

    I swear if I encounter people like the Paladin,Red Mage and Warrior I met yesterday I'll just take the penalty and leave

    Yes it's our job to heal but we're not an infinite source of mana so it would be great if people actually starts listening and stop being asshats
    (10)

  6. #19456
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    An Abysmal Amdapor
    It utterly astounds me how much people will try to blame someone else for their mistakes.

    Bad gear?
    RAWR IT’S THE HEALER’S FAULT IF I DIE BECAUSE MY MAX HP IS TRASH

    Stand in AOEs and die?
    RAWR HEALER’S FAULT I DIED TO A PERFECTLY DODGEABLE AOE

    Fail a mechanic and die?
    THIS HEALER SUCKS BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T HEAL ME THROUGH NEAR INSTANT DEATH BECAUSE REEEEEE MECHANICS

    Honestly. The fact that they had enough to get through the item level requirement of the dungeon astounds me (and almost makes me wish for it to be “You have to have this item level minimum in most, if not all, of your equipment slots”; at least for the left side).

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    Yes it's our job to heal but we're not an infinite source of mana so it would be great if people actually starts listening and stop being asshats
    Unfortunately, we are not equipped to heal stupidity. That is beyond our powers.
    (13)
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

  7. #19457
    Player
    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Reminds me of this one tank I had some patch ago in fractal hard. Sephirot puddles went out on the second boss and the tank just... stood there. Instant 7 vuln stacks because he didn't move.

    #healersadjust
    (2)

  8. #19458
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I think my favorite was the guy telling me I had instacast heals so there was no excuse.

    Yah no, insta cast doesn't help you getting one shot even through the Galvanize I put through. That's 100 percent on you, either for failing to gear or avoiding a mechanic.
    (4)

  9. #19459
    Player
    Aosha's Avatar
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    Dec 2014
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    Gridania
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    441
    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Queued into Sohm Al.
    Newbie message.
    Has to be the Samurai, everyone else has gear that's locked behind story progression.
    We kill the first pack.
    Samurai leaves duty.



    ...huh?
    (3)

  10. #19460
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Character
    Sigrun Helasdottir
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Copperbell Mines.

    Astrologian and Summoner and Rogue

    I was tanking for the first time as a paladin

    Immediately realise this is not going to go well when the summoner and Astrologian start pulling things left and right while I'm tanking manage to handle everything they throw my way until second to last pack before final boss when Astro and Summoner decide to facepull the other three packs in that corner area before the mob I was tanking purposely taking thier time to bring them back around while I'm dying die just as they arrive get rezzed I say nothing but finish pulling aggro off of those two and finish out the dungeoun both leave without a word other dps gives me a com and says good job. I get out of there and repair wishing I could have added those other two onto my blacklist.
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