Please no more Eureka!

[Nixxe]

The only part I really had a problem with was pre-nerf Pagos because it was the worst designed grind I've ever seen: monotonous, unforgiving, and unrewarding. You lived and died by the chain. The rest of it was pretty OK. You go and hang out, talk to your group, and kill some things.

I don't really mind Eureka. The big issue I have with it is the relic weapon. Relics were exciting in ARR because SE put the effort into them to make them so. They had their own cool story, their own content, and required a lot of effort to get a really good looking and awesome weapon that truly was the pinnacle. In HW it was kind of the same story, though there was no content made solely for the relic and then people's effort was somewhat undermined by the potential for better weapons coming out of Diadem. In SB, the relics are basically an afterthought. They have like half a story tacked on to some other content and they were generally kept worse than other weapons because they took substantially less effort. What's the point? If this is the best SE can do for relic weapons, then just skip them entirely in Shadowbringers. There are already crafted weapons and tomestone weapons that are good enough. Ex primals aren't exactly a big deal either.

[SamSmoot]

I just tried the first one recently. You set a rotary elemental thing that you need an external site to decipher try to kill level 1 mobs that take all you have to just barely kill one at a time, and cryptic chat from players about chains and stuff. I assume you go there, kill stuff somehow, and get something for your effort, but that's all I've been able to figure out so far.
I'd rather grind dungeons.
I've just reached 70, still have a bit of MSQ to complete if I can get my item level above 300, but I'm losing interest already.

[Physic]

I just tried the first one recently. You set a rotary elemental thing that you need an external site to decipher try to kill level 1 mobs that take all you have to just barely kill one at a time, and cryptic chat from players about chains and stuff. I assume you go there, kill stuff somehow, and get something for your effort, but that's all I've been able to figure out so far.
I'd rather grind dungeons.
I've just reached 70, still have a bit of MSQ to complete if I can get my item level above 300, but I'm losing interest already.

go there, do fates and team up with other newbs. In the bery beginning your challenge log is a good start.

[Ayer2015]

Never make another Eurkea.... Just because people did it doesn't mean they all enjoyed it. I just wanted my relic... stop punishing me SE.

[Dragoon4life]

Eureka took a lot of finances from the game on general. We got no costume for Holloween, 1 dungeon per patch, no mounts for any of the events. Eureka is hot garbage, and what amazes me even more is how ppl defend it. The game suffered from this instance. This was the first time in 3 years where this game wasn’t my obsession. If they are going to bring Eureka to 5.0 pls keep the relic far away from it and just make it the 4th option.

[Alucard135]

Eureka took a lot of finances from the game on general. We got no costume for Holloween, 1 dungeon per patch, no mounts for any of the events. Eureka is hot garbage, and what amazes me even more is how ppl defend it. The game suffered from this instance. This was the first time in 3 years where this game wasn’t my obsession. If they are going to bring Eureka to 5.0 pls keep the relic far away from it and just make it the 4th option.

They defend it because people keep spreading lies about it either intentionally or due to their misconception about it. Let's address what you just stated.

Eureka took a lot of finances from the game on general.

Do you have any proof or numbers to back that up? In fact the events you're complaining about had lots of mini games in them. And if you were to compare SB to HW, you only lost 3 dungeons, but gained other stuff in their place (unless you really miss diadem and you want that back).

We got no costume for Holloween

What about the wolf one?

1 dungeon per patch

You serious? we only lost 3 dungeons since we got 1 dungeon per odd numbered patches. So 4.1, 4.3 and 4.5 had only one dungeon. We also got 2 ultimate raids and BA.

no mounts for any of the events

Yeah, no bear mount for Christmas. And don't forget the car mount coming soon.

The game suffered from this instance

I asked you before how did the game suffer, but you didn't reply. The numbers we have show that more people are doing it than previous relic style despite the previous style having more than 2 years and being nerfed way more than Eureka.

I'm just curious. Do you intentionally say those things knowing they're wrong? or you're just misinformed and just hate Eureka? Even in your thread that you stared, you didn't even bother saying anything other than similar claims.

[Araxes]

Eureka took a lot of finances from the game on general. We got no costume for Holloween, 1 dungeon per patch, no mounts for any of the events. Eureka is hot garbage, and what amazes me even more is how ppl defend it. The game suffered from this instance. This was the first time in 3 years where this game wasn’t my obsession. If they are going to bring Eureka to 5.0 pls keep the relic far away from it and just make it the 4th option.

Thats what we have to deal with now. If you dont do Eureka, you basically run out of things to do.

[Physic]

Thats what we have to deal with now. If you dont do Eureka, you basically run out of things to do.

the same things to do were there before eureka, eureka is just more compelling than doing a few dungeons over and over. We have like what 100 dungeons? now 9 24 mans?

anyhow, the next "eureka" wont be eureka exactly, its going to be an open worldish instance, which plays by slightly different rules. its worth attempting, because its a different path for content.

[xbahax92]

Whats wrong about the Dev team trying to make new, entertaining content? Werent people complaining about the same formular actually and want things spiced up a bit?

Eureka is yet far from perfect, during its initial release it was a mess. I hated Pagos actually so much, that it was a real torture to get it done.
But after nerfs and nerfs, changing their vision and listening to the feedback, they added various features and if we take a look at Hydatos, it can be fun. The RNG rate is actually way better (comparing gold chest and warped-boxes, the mount drop and the emote).
If you want new content, you gotta let the Dev team experiment. Even if they fail at it and need to "hotfix" said content multiple times. Aslong they stop this nonsense about "chain monsters for hours is a fun thing", Im okay with Eureka.
At least I wont complain about people that deal 3000 dps in the expert roulette or people that watch Netflix or YouTube during 24man-carry-me-raids.

And I agree to the points about the relic quest above. I want a seperate relic quest, not this krile-garbage sidestory. Instead of tying the relic into eureka, they could involve eureka as another "source" to get your materials for the upgrade, like we did in HW relic (multiple ways to farm)

[Reynhart]

Yeah, no bear mount for Christmas. And don't forget the car mount coming soon.

Also, the Rathalos mount says "Hi !"...Alongside the permanent trial that was created as part of that "event"