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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    This has been proven and demonstrated time and time again.
    No It hasn't
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    No It hasn't
    What? How has it not been proven? A level 70 who levelled a class the good old fashioned doesn't instantly make them a 'pro' or 'good' or even 'mediocre'. A decent player is someone who actually knows their rotation and at least the basics of the class. I've seen plenty of max level players who still don't know jack about their class/role.

    If the classes were level 30 then it's most likely that these players will just go into deep dungeons to level up where they can get away without a) knowing their rotation b) doing their class role. Those who jump sometimes are also in this category; though most who are smart at least read the tooltips/practise the rotation or read a guide.

    The faster you get to max level the faster you can master the class anyway; you don't get your full kit till then.

    I don't even know how you can even object to that statement.

    tldr: people will use the classes wrong regardless of what level they picked it up as.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 03-09-2019 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    What? How has it not been proven? A level 70 who levelled a class the good old fashioned doesn't instantly make them a 'pro' or 'good' or even 'mediocre'. A decent player is someone who actually knows their rotation and at least the basics of the class. I've seen plenty of max level players who still don't know jack about their class/role.

    If the classes were level 30 then it's most likely that these players will just go into deep dungeons to level up where they can get away without a) knowing their rotation b) doing their class role. Those who jump sometimes are also in this category; though most who are smart at least read the tooltips/practise the rotation or read a guide.

    The faster you get to max level the faster you can master the class anyway; you don't get your full kit till then.

    I don't even know how you can even object to that statement.

    tldr: people will use the classes wrong regardless of what level they picked it up as.

    He is saying that no mediocre players learn from playing through levels. I say some do

    Anecdotal evidence
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    Last edited by MsQi; 03-09-2019 at 07:38 AM.