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    Quote Originally Posted by HakaseNyan View Post
    It's so weird seeing someone argue sex has to be binary or else it's a disorder / defect, and 'gender' doesn't have to be binary. If intersex is a birthing disorder, then being trans-gendered is a mental disorder.
    the difference is one is physical and one is mental, your body is forced to adhere to biological standards, and when it doesnt it is an anomaly. however there are no biological norms on how you should "feel." our bodies are cookie cutter based on the genes of our parents, however our personalities and how we view our social roles are based on things we cant quantify. a few of the variables have been discovered, like our environment and chemical balances, but like already stated there is a lot about the brain and the mind we are completely clueless about.
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    For mature and reasonable human beings, this isn’t an issue. For SJWs however.....I’ll just leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keife191 View Post
    the difference is one is physical and one is mental, your body is forced to adhere to biological standards, and when it doesnt it is an anomaly. however there are no biological norms on how you should "feel." our bodies are cookie cutter based on the genes of our parents, however our personalities and how we view our social roles are based on things we cant quantify. a few of the variables have been discovered, like our environment and chemical balances, but like already stated there is a lot about the brain and the mind we are completely clueless about.
    Clownfish, wrasses, moray eels, gobies and other fish species are known to change sex, including reproductive functions. A school of clownfish is always built into a hierarchy with a female fish at the top. When she dies, the most dominant male changes sex and takes her place.

    Humans evolved from fish etc so ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastLevel View Post
    For mature and reasonable human beings, this isn’t an issue. For SJWs however.....I’ll just leave it at that.
    Why would SJWs have an issue with it if they're the people that think gender identity is flexible? :v Wouldn't they welcome a race that didn't confirm to the norms? Sounds like only anti-SJWs would get triggered by this.
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    Like a lot of terms, "SJW" has largely lost whatever little meaning it had; people of all leanings, detractors, antagonists, supporters, all have lost sense of what it means so it has no weight left to it. If people use it in a sentence, it is largely indicative of a very reductive demeanour and an eagerness to reduce complexity to be more digestible to their worldview, as the human mind is eager to simplify things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Like a lot of terms, "SJW" has largely lost whatever little meaning it had; people of all leanings, detractors, antagonists, supporters, all have lost sense of what it means so it has no weight left to it. If people use it in a sentence, it is largely indicative of a very reductive demeanour and an eagerness to reduce complexity to be more digestible to their worldview, as the human mind is eager to simplify things.
    i dont think this is quite true. an sjw is a far leftist who, in order to find value in their life, must fight social issues that dont matter for people who dont want their help. like emma watson or brie larson, the new wave feminists who are basically man haters fighting for an equality that was achieved what, 50 years ago?

    another term that goes with this is PC or politically correct. sjws hate anything that isnt PC, and make it their lifes goal to destroy white men, because apparently white men are the illuminati or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keife191 View Post
    i dont think this is quite true. an sjw is a far leftist who, in order to find value in their life, must fight social issues that dont matter for people who dont want their help. like emma watson or brie larson, the new wave feminists who are basically man haters fighting for an equality that was achieved what, 50 years ago?

    another term that goes with this is PC or politically correct. sjws hate anything that isnt PC, and make it their lifes goal to destroy white men, because apparently white men are the illuminati or something.
    okay, regardless of what SJWs are/are not, what in the world do they have to do with a genderless race in a mmo? Why would they have an issue with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keife191 View Post
    i dont think this is quite true. an sjw is a far leftist who, in order to find value in their life, must fight social issues that dont matter for people who dont want their help. like emma watson or brie larson, the new wave feminists who are basically man haters fighting for an equality that was achieved what, 50 years ago?

    another term that goes with this is PC or politically correct. sjws hate anything that isnt PC, and make it their lifes goal to destroy white men, because apparently white men are the illuminati or something.
    Although I agree with you, I wouldn’t go much deeper about political stuff like this, considering a large portion of the FFXIV community are SJWs, not all of them though haha. Don’t want mods involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    okay, regardless of what SJWs are/are not, what in the world do they have to do with a genderless race in a mmo? Why would they have an issue with it?
    they wouldnt, they would say that any mmo that doesnt have a genderless race is sexist or something and force every video game from now til the end of time to include one or be endlessly attacked on social media.

    Quote Originally Posted by LastLevel View Post
    Although I agree with you, I wouldn’t go much deeper about political stuff like this, considering a large portion of the FFXIV community are SJWs, not all of them though haha. Don’t want mods involved.
    fair enough lol. my initial point in all this, lost in the heat of debate, was that a genderless race is not likely to happen in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Like a lot of terms, "SJW" has largely lost whatever little meaning it had; people of all leanings, detractors, antagonists, supporters, all have lost sense of what it means so it has no weight left to it. If people use it in a sentence, it is largely indicative of a very reductive demeanour and an eagerness to reduce complexity to be more digestible to their worldview, as the human mind is eager to simplify things.
    Yea, you've got the right of it. They just want to reduce anyone with an opposing viewpoint to a "SJW" boogeyman so they don't have to acknowledge anything they say. Just fosters an us vs them mentality. It is easy to dismiss people if you can label and categorize them.
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