Ended sb, someone forgot his key? (spoil)

[Jandor]

The whole reason Ala Mhigo was so easy and nothing happened is because Zenos found worthy prey in the Wol. He told everyone there to not do anything unless it involved us.

"Bored weeb seeks cool fight with strong person."

Even if I had no other issues with the Stormblood story I'd still think this sucks as a motivation for a villain.

[Hamada]

I strongly disagree. I think HW was much better handled. ARR was pretty hit and miss for me, but ARR also never had anything I hated as much as amnesiac Tsuyu, so I'm tempted to let ARR edge out over SB. Gaius, despite his 'angry atheist' rant in the Praetorium, was a more compelling villain than Zenos as well.

Though SE still has a shot to make Zenos interesting I suppose.

SB is pretty bad, I would do HW>ARR>SB as well

Theres opinion

Then there id fact of the structure and flow of it.

Fact is sb is better structurer with the time line and flows more smoothly.

Hw time line is completely screwy story wise and reborn tbh was rushed over and had many things added in that were pointless for the story.

nope

[Selova]

Theres opinion

Then there id fact of the structure and flow of it.

Fact is sb is better structurer with the time line and flows more smoothly.

Hw time line is completely screwy story wise and reborn tbh was rushed over and had many things added in that were pointless for the story.

All of that is still a opinion, not fact.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

All of that is still a opinion, not fact.

Actually it is pure fact maybe you need a writing class

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

All of that is still a opinion, not fact.

The fact is described as the statement that can be verified or proved to be true.

Which it can be go compare and contrast the timelines flow and the sense the timeline made and how it was structured

[Gemina]

The fact is described as the statement that can be verified or proved to be true.

By all means, go ahead and do so. Otherwise it remains your opinion.

According to this statement, you indeed do know what a factual statement is. Now can you structure your argument in a way that proves SB is better HW. I'm all ears.

[Bright-Flower]

SB is pretty bad, I would do HW>ARR>SB as well


nope

It's a shame too because I was hyped for SB, ready to love it. But I was ultimately underwhelmed.

And as for MorbolvampreQueen6, if she wants to assert this a fact she needs to provide evidence that doesn't rely on subjective opinions.

Some specific examples from both expansions as to how SB does it better than HW would help.

[Gemina]

"Bored weeb seeks cool fight with strong person."

Even if I had no other issues with the Stormblood story I'd still think this sucks as a motivation for a villain.

I don't even give Zenos the primary villain tag for SB. I attribute this to the empire as a whole and not any individual in particular. If I were to do so, I'd lean more towards Solus for that role. In my eyes, Zenos serves as a rival to the WoL. Someone of equal combat prowess, ability and power. He's nowhere near the level of Omega or Ultima but could be triumphant against them like the WoL was.

What I feel really downplayed Zenos was that he conjoined with Shinryu. This was SO disappointing. As disappointing as we has with the WoL during the first clash. He was 2-0 against the WoL before getting knocked on his ass in Ala Mhigo, so what does he do? He merges with an Eikon. A manner of beasts whom the WoL eats for breakfast. He did not seem to learn that opponents of superior strength only serves to propel the WoL's resolve and determination far past mortal limits. He was doing just fine on his own.

We'll see what happens between the two, but his potential is still there to be something memorable. I'm just not exactly sure how things will play out so long as his conscious is in another body.

[HyoMinPark]

Actually it is pure fact maybe you need a writing class

It's not a fact. You think the writing is better in SB. That doesn't make it so. I thought it felt rushed because they tried to shove both Ala Mhigo and Doma into the main expansion. We spent so long in Doma, and suddenly at ~68 they remembered, "Crap, we need to liberate Ala Mhigo, too!" Don't even get me started on how Lakshmi was shoved in there... I'll grant that Bismarck seemed a bit random between The Vault and heading to Azys Lla, but at least he had a purpose/was somewhat key to getting to Azys Lla. I can't even remember why Lakshmi was there, save to give the main expansion a second primal.

The fact is described as the statement that can be verified or proved to be true.

Which it can be go compare and contrast the timelines flow and the sense the timeline made and how it was structured

Your comparison and contrast will still be an opinionated piece. It would not be a solid fact. I could do something similar with HW versus SB.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

By all means, go ahead and do so. Otherwise it remains your opinion.

According to this statement, you indeed do know what a factual statement is. Now can you structure your argument in a way that proves SB is better HW. I'm all ears.

Okay thats simpl
Pre hw -- start get betrayed run to isgard for safety still allowed in the towns we are being hunted which is really not logical to start with

Hw start -- enter town join nobelhood basicly go to 1 zone half ways through sent back to uldah and mor dhon...

Hw center -- save the bull, kill whales 3 dungeons then save the kitten ... mean while niddhog sits some were being lazy ...

Near end of hw -- magically three different story's start before ending hws plot the story of domanio,warriors of darkness and al miego pre log while using old ar zones without any rhyme for basic messenger



Next sb

Pre sb -- killed griffin forced to enter a battle field to free ala miego

Start sb -- the battle begins clean and simple flow with pre until we are nearly killed

Start sb part 2 saving downtime to limsa buy a ship and set sail

In between get off track as boars tend to kill ghost

Center sb ---learn about kugan and culture get tricked by a fish into breaking the law saved by turtle who runs a business

because he wants to sell to a company pretty clean and logical flow

Center part 2 leave and gather info from logical pirates taking out imperial to gain freedom


Near end finish the empires threat in the land and enters war 2.0 as we fall into darkness for pre shadow bringers.


Yes left our some but i rushed this cuz half awake but logical and flow of the storys facts has been proven