Please stop it with eureka

[Jaggerjack]

So we felt the need to start another "I don't like eureka and my opinion speaks for all players of the game so do what I say" thread?

Hindsight now thinking about it I wonder how much of the eureka hate is actually from people that leeched most of the steps on the ARR and HW relics since Eureka requires them to be at least a little more involved.

i never leeched in this game, its one of the reasons why i dont want to do eureka i have not done relics outside of 2.0 your assuming i leeched ARR relic because i posted this?

[Jaggerjack]

How are you even doing a normal dungeon which is way longer than 2 minutes then ? You know, the ones where if you are afking or doing nothing, the 3 others players end up kicking you out.

I dont even talk of savage raids where the combo smashing is way worse than Eureka because of dps checks and parsers.

Should we stop with dungeons and raids as well ?

So you think its fun Fighting a mob that has a boss HP for 2 mins just to for 1 exp?

[purgatori]

Eureka meta shifted from endlessly spamming buttons to a NM train where most people just afk, thought getting to the point where you benefit from the train requires you to do a bit of grinding your challenge log.

The CL was the first thing I did upon arriving in Eureka. It's boring as sin. NM fights, while nothing spectacular, are at least moderately exciting the first handful of times you do them.

It would be a bit different, perhaps, if CL a feasible solo activity. That way, you could just spend an hour or so checking off the CL entries with some casual grinding and the odd spot of mortal danger. Instead, you have to assemble groups and waste lots of time while people port back for repairs, check in to see xx/xx progress, etc. It doesn't go any distance to recapturing the levelling experience of old MMO's like EQ for me, as I did most of that solo. I remember camping out on the dunes with my faithful skeletal servant in EQ and killing spawn after spawn for an unholy amount of time. That was also very boring, but at least it wasn't as annoying as Eureka, and the progress I made was real progress: not "well you've finished this area, so enjoy going back to moving about at a snail's pace and losing multiple levels because you can't do anything until you unlock the aetherytes in the next area---and everything will be wanting to kill you. Enjoy doing CL's all over again!"

As I've said in other threads, I'm happy that Eureka appears to satisfy a certain niche in the fanbase. For me, though, it's not even close to being the old-school-inspired alternative to the tomestone/raids endgame; at least not an alternative that is actually fun.

[Jaggerjack]

cant believe people taking this personal

[Jaggerjack]

And that was your first mistake - this zone is not meant to be soloed. If you go solo, it's going to take awhile, especially starting out.

Also, if you are in pain from doing your combo - it sounds to me you need to re-arrange your hotbar to make your rotation easier to reach.

then why there's no duty ? i dont want to go fates and afk for exp no thanks i already leveled up my character to 70 to feel powerful why should i feel weak again?

[Kuroka]

Give it up you argue with an wall, i do feel youre right, i even had FC mates entering it, leveling till 7-10ish and then stoping playing alltogether cause its no more fun to them.

the "you gotta level up cause xyz" IS BS, the Death penalty is BS - at least let us use a re-ress item, or stack the dawns, anything... OR at least not let us loose a level once were on each regions levelcap.

The Idea - just like the BA was nice, but how they made it is a mess...


And before you complain, i forced myself through 2 finished weapons with the 3rd almost done too... i hated it, all the time. you cant even have fun with ppl as literally everything tries to kill you - wed at least need some more save zones. But they just locked tons of stuff in it so ppl had few choice...

Besides that, there was literally not much else to do >_>

[Anzaman]

And that was your first mistake - this zone is not meant to be soloed. If you go solo, it's going to take awhile, especially starting out.

Well, I tried to go in with friends but due to level differences, we didn't get any exp or progress.

So great design. :thumbs_up:

[LaylaTsarra]

Well, I tried to go in with friends but due to level differences, we didn't get any exp or progress.

So great design. :thumbs_up:

You won't get it from chaining mobs but you will from Notorious Monsters. I have gone with low level friends quite often and have be an Uber for many of them. i also have a friend who has played and uber'd my low level toons while they were leveling as well.

[LaylaTsarra]

cant believe people taking this personal

You're entitled to your opinion. Not everyone shares it however. Maybe a little constructive criticism might be useful as opposed to simply #Eurekasucks.

[Anzaman]

You won't get it from chaining mobs but you will from Notorious Monsters. I go with low level friends all the time and have be an Uber for many of them.

I did some FATEs but felt like total leech when I was critting 70's and died to anything and everything.

Just sucks since Challenge Log grants tons of experience, but I need to struggle solo for those since there never seems to be anybody around my level there and friends can't assist with them.