Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Guess Cid's remark of "Were you expecting more to come of rust?" was on point

Eh. Don't kill me, but I'm pretty sure he says "Were you expecting a modicum of rust?" I hear that dialogue in my sleep and its some of the best in the game spoken by one of the best voices in the game (IMO). But yes all that despair he speaks of is generally spot on. Thankfully after dying to him as many times as I did on release day, I got him down. For some reason Ultima's Holy Cross and Mustadio's Maintenance are more my bane than anything else. (Is not so good with spacial awareness, obviously).

[SaitoHikari]

I sort of have a doozy of a story.

I queued into Expert Roulette and got the Burn. Everything up until the end of the second boss got bursted down nicely. However, at some point between the first and second boss, the tank had to step away from the game for a while, apparently due to family stuff. The Black Mage that was with me got impatient and started pulling things. This persisted even when the tank returned, and the Black Mage early pulled the second boss. The tank said that if he did that again, he'd be keeping it next time. They got into a fight after that, with the Black Mage saying that the dungeon didn't need a tank anyway.

The tank refused to tank anything after that, and the Black Mage and the healer continued onward. I went along with it because there wasn't really much point in watching them die and not make any progress. I ended up tanking, as a Bard. I'll admit I had situations where I had to do this myself, though not in this kind of manner. Thankfully Bard has a number of useful defensive cooldowns and the mobility to easily walk out of AoEs without sacrificing any DPS in turn. We make it to the last boss without any problems.

(I thought the healer was friends with the Black Mage at first since they were both in the same server as I was, but looking into it after the fact and talking to the healer to express my thanks after, they just went along with it because they also really wanted to get out of there ASAP.)

Black Mage and tank got into an even bigger fight. The tank was clearly not going to help at all against the Mist Dragon, so I decided to prepare myself. I knew if we had any chance of succeeding, I would have to be the one to tank it, not the Black Mage or the healer. Using Refresh or Tactician mid-fight would be out of the question. Thankfully, if any non-tank has to tank the Mist Dragon, it should definitely be a Bard. And I did it, with the support of the healer and without anyone dying. Hell, we did so much damage that if I had LB2'd, we'd have probably killed it before divebomb phase (the boss was at around 8% HP before he disappeared).

The Black Mage was an ass and I probably shouldn't have supported that behavior by stepping up and indirectly supporting his point by not failing (especially since the tank was completely convinced that this wasn't possible), but it was a valuable learning experience too.

A couple useful notes for Bards:

- Warden's Paean is incredible during the fight, as it blocks the frostbite damage over time and it also means the healer doesn't need to use a GCD for Esuna. The Mist Dragon uses it on the player that's tanking towards the start of the fight and again after add phase. If Warden's Paean is used within the first ~15 seconds of the fight, it should be off cooldown by the time you need it again after add phase. (Any earlier and the 30 second shielding might not last long enough to block the first debuff, any later and it will still be on cooldown when the boss uses it again). This enabled me to survive the second combo of debuff breath + mini-tankbuster frost breath after add phase, because if the frostbite debuff took hold, the DoT could have easily finished me off. Even so, the healer needs to pay close attention and prepare (which the healer did), because an auto attack afterwards could have wrecked me too.

- I recall that the debuff field breath + mini-tankbuster frost breath combo did about 47k damage total to me. As a BiS Bard, I have 54k max HP, so I had to be topped off to survive that. I remember only surviving by about 4-6k HP, I blocked the frostbite debuff, and I think I also moved out of the ice puddles before taking any field damage. It helps that the healer was an Astrologian that went into Nocturnal stance for the shielding, so it's possible I only survived because of that + my magic Troubadour potentially mitigating some of the damage. I prepared myself to hit Second Wind immediately afterwards so an auto wouldn't finish me off afterwards, though an auto likely does enough damage that it doesn't matter. I think the healer took advantage of Aspected Benefic and Essential Dignity being instant cast heals to get me back up immediately.

[Cincierta]

Well, after setting up a new computer that came with a new keyboard and mouse, I redownloaded 14 and gave it a run on duty roulette as a test run.

Queue up as healer, get Stone Vigil. Party comp was DRK, MCH, MNK, and me on WHM. Tank runs off as soon as protect is on and proceeds to mass pull without letting me prep first. They run out of sight and by the time I could get off a swiftcast + cure II they're almost dead. I was able to hold them up for a while until 2 more mobs aggroed from the other room, and tank goes splat, followed by me, the mch, and then the mnk.

We respawn and tank basically decides to spit in my face by saying 'So no big pulls. Got it.' Um, if you had asked me first I would've been ready to cover you, and two, Stone Vigil is one of those instances that you probably shouldn't mass pull because of the amount of aoes and damage mobs dole out at level sync.

Throughout the entire dungeon they stance-dance while attempting to mass pull, thus making my healer's life more difficult since I don't have Holy and Medica II to help mitigate damage. At some point during the first and second boss fights the mch was easily able to rip hate from the tank and hold it, and I genuinely felt bad for the mnk who was attempting to do positionals, but I'm guessing he gave up after the second boss.

Final boss (after several more close calls with the tank mass-pulling and me getting used to the new keyboard), the tank keeps Grit off and proceeds to be a subpar dps, thereby letting hate bounce around for a good 80% of the fight. Its breath attack almost one-shots the tank. We manage to get through and the tank immediately quits the instance, and once loot is rolled on and dropped, the mnk leaves. The mch then tells me 'I love taking aggro lol', before leaving, and left me with a sour taste for my new keyboard.

I think I'll swap back in a bit. The spacebar squeaks anyway.

[HyoMinPark]

The day of... interesting co-healers in Orbonne...

Got an AST who got offended when I told them they didn’t need to use Boles on me if I was the off-tank and could use it for something else, like Minor Arcana or Royal Road, and they then refused to heal me. So, we kicked them because, in their avoidance to healing me, they also failed to heal the party and killed 2 DPS every Cleansing Strike on TGC.


And then I got a SCH co-healer (that I had to apologize for being in Noct because the tanks Leeroy’d into the bosses before I could even swap out of Noct, so Mustadio and Agrias were done with double shields, but eh... made it through)... but the issue wasn’t the tanks face-pulling. It was my co-healer wearing the i385 Eureka weapon... with no substats. And, they were aware that the weapon was bad... just hadn’t... upgraded... it...

;w;

At least they weren’t a jerk when I asked them if they had intended to have that weapon equipped. They’d apparently been on a break and didn’t have a replacement, so I was going to suggest they try for the crafted one and augment it... but then the tanks pulled Ultima so... ;w;

Well, hopefully they get a new weapon... ;w;

[Cyreil]

The day of... interesting co-healers in Orbonne...

Got an AST who got offended when I told them they didn’t need to use Boles on me if I was the off-tank and could use it for something else, like Minor Arcana or Royal Road, and they then refused to heal me. So, we kicked them because, in their avoidance to healing me, they also failed to heal the party and killed 2 DPS every Cleansing Strike on TGC.


And then I got a SCH co-healer (that I had to apologize for being in Noct because the tanks Leeroy’d into the bosses before I could even swap out of Noct, so Mustadio and Agrias were done with double shields, but eh... made it through)... but the issue wasn’t the tanks face-pulling. It was my co-healer wearing the i385 Eureka weapon... with no substats. And, they were aware that the weapon was bad... just hadn’t... upgraded... it...

;w;

At least they weren’t a jerk when I asked them if they had intended to have that weapon equipped. They’d apparently been on a break and didn’t have a replacement, so I was going to suggest they try for the crafted one and augment it... but then the tanks pulled Ultima so... ;w;

Well, hopefully they get a new weapon... ;w;

Hopefully they get better rolls than me. I'm still fussing with my Scholar weapon. Keeps trying to force all the piety in the world on me.

[Liam_Harper]

It was my co-healer wearing the i385 Eureka weapon... with no substats. And, they were aware that the weapon was bad... just hadn’t... upgraded... it...

To be fair, a regular 385 weapon has maybe 550 secondary stat, which only translates to a few percent performance increase. An un-augmented Eureka weapon still has the primary stats, weapon damage and so on. You see players without materia melds all the time, which translates to the same thing and no one bats an eye.

If they intend to augment it soon, weren't being rude and weren't playing badly, a crafted weapon would be a waste.

[HyoMinPark]

To be fair, a regular 385 weapon has maybe 550 secondary stat, which only translates to a few percent performance increase. An un-augmented Eureka weapon still has the primary stats, weapon damage and so on. You see players without materia melds all the time, which translates to the same thing and no one bats an eye.

If they intend to augment it soon, weren't being rude and weren't playing badly, a crafted weapon would be a waste.

Considering they were a SCH, having a Crit substat would be better strictly for the crit chance boost it will give the shields, and the crafted has that substat on it (the crafted Codex this tier is one of the better weapons, if one doesn’t have access to Seiryu or the Omega Codex). At this point, getting it and augmenting it would not be a waste, especially considering all the work you have to do when it comes to rolling for substats on the Eureka weapon.

I’m not talking in terms of damage either; their healing also suffers from lack of substats on their weapon, probably one of the more important pieces of gear. Taking a weapon into a piece of content with 0 substats on it is careless, even if it is Orbonne. “A few percent performance increase” isn’t really an excuse for pure gear neglect, and I would hold the other two roles to this same standard. The SCH was aware the weapon was poor, and queued into Orbonne with it anyways. As nice as they were, there is no excuse for that...

Hopefully they get better rolls than me. I'm still fussing with my Scholar weapon. Keeps trying to force all the piety in the world on me.

Slowly working on rolling for my AST globe (it’s 405 and augmented with the elemental bonus, but don’t have decent substats on it to use it outside of Eureka). I keep getting Piety... and then when I’m not getting Piety, I’m getting Spell Speed.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

Eh. Don't kill me, but I'm pretty sure he says "Were you expecting a modicum of rust?" I hear that dialogue in my sleep and its some of the best in the game spoken by one of the best voices in the game (IMO). But yes all that despair he speaks of is generally spot on. Thankfully after dying to him as many times as I did on release day, I got him down. For some reason Ultima's Holy Cross and Mustadio's Maintenance are more my bane than anything else. (Is not so good with spacial awareness, obviously).

Like I said pages ago.....that was me being a dum dum with English(which is my second language) and trying to be funny.....my bad xD

[Liam_Harper]

“A few percent performance increase” isn’t really an excuse for pure gear neglect, and I would hold the other two roles to this same standard. The SCH was aware the weapon was poor, and queued into Orbonne with it anyways. As nice as they were, there is no excuse for that...

This would mean players without melds, without food/pots, with subpar weapons like 355 or such, with low ilv pieces that could be replaced with crafted, or crit favoured classes without a crit weapon have no place in Orbonne, regardless of how well they play, due to neglect that costs a few percent performance and could be remedied by spending gil on the mb.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I can't see it as a big issue tbh.

[Seraph522]

Like I said pages ago.....that was me being a dum dum with English(which is my second language) and trying to be funny.....my bad xD

The official term for this is 'Mondegreen' - mishearing a word or phrase as something else that sounds similar. And since native English speakers do this all the time anyways, I think you're good.

Had a weird run yesterday. Doing leveling roulette as Pugilist (haven't gotten to MNK yet), load into Tam-Tara. The poor healer was obviously new, sprout icon and all, but was spamming Medica most of the time. They shifted to Cure when the tank recommended it, but had such a difficult time with it that our tank died a few times, and it got to the point that the others thought they were a bot and were planning to vote kick them (weren't communicating much). I was hesitant on the matter - sometimes the lack of communication comes down to them being on a PS4, and when they typed a short phrase explaining this shortly after, I was proven correct. Had to look up the controls for PS4 controllers to help them out, but they gradually got better as we went on, and the others in the group were much more supportive as we went through the dungeon, even with a few hiccups now and then. I gave my comm to them at the end and told them to keep at it, as did the tank, so hopefully they don't get turned away from the game.