We need a 3rd range class, i present to you the launcher aka HEAVY GUNNER

[Grimoire-M]

Ehh... I can't see how every "Gun" job would necessarily need ammo as a mechanic.

Heck, we don't even know if Gunbreaker is actually going to have "Ammo" as a mechanic. The only evidence we have for this is that in the ShB trailer, Thancred reloads his sword. But this means little, unless we take everything from the ShB trailer as accurate gameplay, which by the scene where the WoL is fighting Kuribu means that next expac will let us swap jobs on the fly in combat!

Since, if you just go by the fact that "Guns shoot bullets therefore magical ammo" then the same could be said about literally every projectile weapon. Which are defined by sending objects (Which could be magically enhanced) through the air.

To say nothing of the fact that Gunbreaker doesn't have an aetherotransformer which is used to power MCH's special ammo and gadgets. (Since, if I recall correctly, aether is automatically turned into bullets that we shoot and we merely "Reload" enhanced bullets)

I could see Gunbreaker getting a 'sharpness' mechanic similar to all melee weapons in Monster Hunter. It's comparable to Heat and the function of BLM's MP in their rotation. Certain abilities deplete the meter faster than others, and the less sharpness you have the less damage you do, so eventually you have to build it back up. The idea would be to recover sharpness right before you want to burst, then ride the remaining good windows as long as possible.

If they get ammo, I expect it to be used for cooldowns mostly. Or for a ranged burst phase, making it similar to PLD's Req window.

[Dralonis]

Just replace MCH's flamethrower with a mini gun and have it function like bahamut phase.

[LordMetal7]

Just replace MCH's flamethrower with a mini gun and have it function like bahamut phase.

No no more like add the skill and with Missiles launcher and even plasma rifle for level 80 and its done

WE NEED MORE SUPPORT! XD

[briarth0rn]

SE won't even give machinists unique lunchboxes, I don't see us getting transforming guns.

[LordMetal7]

SE won't even give machinists unique lunchboxes, I don't see us getting transforming guns.

One can still Dream : 3 and if yoshida sensei sees this?

[ShivaTairo]

Unless a 3rd ranged job makes an entirely new “role” in the game we dont need it.
We need new roles first, “then” new jobs. Adding more of the same serves no purpose.

[Duskane]

For range dps
Sniper and it can be the BLM/SAM of physical range

[LordMetal7]

For range dps
Sniper and it can be the BLM/SAM of physical range

But sniper is already machinist , sigh i only wish Yoshida sensei could only watch the links and make this class a freaking reality dammit, i just want to shoot guys none stop :P

[LordMetal7]

I did, and I imagine the rest of the people in the thread have too, but the concept of this class is inherently flawed. The biggest problem with this classes' concept is it overlaps with pre-existing classes in two major ways. A heavy gunner is inherently similar to Black Mage in some ways, and Machinist in others. Black Mage mechanically speaking is the 'turret mage', boasting hard hitting heavy nuke spells with slow cast times that force them to stay still in order to use them, something a Heay gunner would likely have. Machinist, on the other hand, is the go-to all around Gunner of this game. They're going to get all the military tech. And that theming is far more important, as it kills the potential of this class coming out anytime soon. There are other potential classes that already exist in the FF series as a whole with unique concepts and theming behind them, and they have little to no overlap with any current classes. If SE wants to add another ranged DPS, those are simply more likely. And to be frank, they ought to be.

That said, your hopes aren't completely dashed. I'd recommend to instead ask SE to implement more heavy attacks into the MCH rotation that fit this mould. Perhaps as a way to make Gauss Barrel or the turrets more interesting. It can't be the whole kit, but it can certainly be a part of it. Again, look at Satellite Beam, their Limit Break 3. SE gave them Flamethrower this expansion, so I can absolutely see them getting more abilities to expand their arsenal, including heavy weaponry. Machinist literally can be tweaked to do this, and 5.0 is an ideal time to do so, given how people see the current MCH, it's honestly warranted to change it up too.

What about level 80 abilities it if has machine gun or rocket launcher i mean weapon skills? or abilities?, DAMMIT MAN XD

[LordMetal7]

SE won't even give machinists unique lunchboxes, I don't see us getting transforming guns.

I have to disagree with that we will never know, perhaps we might not see this class in shadowbringuers but the Idea remains, and what if the GMS's or devs see the forums? BTW devs and GM's if you see this tread see the links i posted thank you : 3

Anyways we will wait and see lol