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  1. #19261
    Player
    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I shall add two more or less nice stories from yesterdays mentor roulettes then!
    Both are from Brayflox NM, a dungeon I actually quite like! Both times I went in as scholar (as I always do for mentor roulettes) and both times I wished I'd gone tank...

    First one is in progress, everyone is a sprout and only the level 32 ninja has at least a class at 50, so both the tank and the other dps are probably brand new to the dungeon. And they're french, which is slightly unfortunate, because the tank has no real idea how to fullfill that role yet. Not a huge problem, even though one would hope that someone had figured out the concept of "flash" at this point, but oh well, thats what auto-translate is for, right?
    I construct a little: "Tank, (Please use(Flash)" type of thing and hope for the best.
    The best never happens.
    We still make it through the second boss, with everyone tanking - but thats still something me and Selene can heal through.
    We get to the open part, I put a flag down on the map to give everyone a sense of where we want to go, since they seemed all very confused and ask them to be careful of the roaming mobs. We kinda make it through the first few pulls and then... the tank takes off, running into several groups of mobs, but still not using flash. I'm tanking 3, the dragoon gets beaten up by 2, 2 others are chewing on my poor fairy, the ninja and the tank both have one mob. Its not something that I can heal with only physick and adlo. We die and I ask the tank to use flash again (using auto translate ofc). The ninja is frustrated aswell, seeing how we dont get any sign from the tank that they're even reading the chat. Instead they charge in again - same thing happens, aggro is all over the place, AoEs are not being dodge and my fairy does a better job at tanking than that paladin. Wipe.
    This time, I decide not to follow that tank into certain death until he gives a clear sign that he understands what he has to do, so I just stand in the second bossroom with the two dps, typing another explantion into the chat, while watching how the tank - apparently unaware his party is not following him - charges in again, probably pulls everything yet another time and dies.
    And then hes gone. We didnt votekick or anything, he just quit.
    I offer to go along with no tank and small pulls executed by me and we actually make it through the third boss when a new tank shows up.
    At least this guy know how to tank, even though he has this habit of big pulls - which is a bit... mmh... well, its an ARR leveling dungeon... both dps dont have an AoE, the tank does, fair enough, but our best bet is my bane. Damage is still fairly low, so pulling two groups isnt a real problem, but its no real gain either.
    I have to admit that I was pretty annoyed about that paladin - okay, he was new. Okay, he didnt understood his job yet. But instead of doing this one simple thing that he should have been doing for the past 5 dungeons or so, he just dropped out...

    The second run was a little less annoying - this time we got a level 60+ DRK from the start - but again the type of tank who thinks they always have to pull big. At least this time we had a bard, so some kind of AoE, but pulling 10+ mobs still doesnt work. And no, it doesnt work the second time either, after we've died to such a pull and I told you that this cant be healed nor properly dps'd with the classes we have present.
    A little less annoying, but still... I main a tank myself, I know the joy of big pulls, but there is a time and a place for them. The time is usually past level 40 when most classes have some sort of AoE and the place arent ARR leveling dungeons when you, as tank, are still rocking level one accessories and some white level 30 gear on the left side.

    My last mentor roulette took me to Doma Castle, 7 minutes in and after looking at the tanks gear I got a good sense of why the last healer might dropped out: 3 or 4 pieces of accessories were ilvl240 strength pieces. That paladin was still surprisingly easy to heal, but they also didnt go for big pulls, so maybe they were aware that their gear wasnt really up to date? I didnt quite understand why it wasnt though - it seemed it was their first go through that dungeon, so first go through for the MSQ... surely there must have been quests to offer better stuff?

    In any case those mentor roulettes sometimes serve as a reminder of why I usually tank in dungeons - or make sure someone I know tanks...
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  2. #19262
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
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    I really rarely do this, but you are utterly the worst person ive even seen/read about here. Im glad ill never end up anywere with you. god...
    (16)

  3. #19263
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Tifka Stormmoon
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Wow, I looked at the past few pages and.... well, just wow. I've been in MMO's 18 years too, but I don't have that attitude. FFS, that old man needs to pull his head out of his ass.

    Thankfully - I know the community is better than this. Hell, I've seen proof of it with my own eyes the past couple days.

    Question: What do you do when you get a free FFXIV key from twitch prime and your wife already plays?
    Answer: You offer it to your teenage daughter.

    Question: What happens when random people in a DF discover that you and your wife and running your daughter through her first MMO?
    Answer: The biggest shows of patience and kindness I have ever experienced in an MMO.

    That was my entire Friday. I helped my daughter through Sastasha, Copperbell, Tam Tara, and baby Ifrit. And the kindness we received from 4 different random healers in all those runs really did my heart some good that day. If any of you remember helping the "Stormmoon" clan through any of those runs Friday - thank you so much for your patience and kindness. You gave my daughter a wonderful first impression of this community. While I understand (and have warned her) of the seedier parts of it - it's great that you all started out on the right foot.
    (37)

  4. #19264
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    baby Ifrit
    Your whole post is lovely, but this description made me giggle.
    (9)

  5. #19265
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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Awww I'm so glad your family was treated so nicely. I like it when a group is new or they're friends/family helping the newest person but might they also might not know how things work. You can sometimes tell that's what is happening and those tend to turn into nice chatty and maybe jokey runs that are really relaxing. A while back I had a group like yours where it was obvious two were trying to teach the third in another chat but didn't quite know some things themselves in a Copperbell NM so I gave them some nice tips for their jobs and other things the game doesn't tell you.
    (4)

  6. #19266
    Player
    Gemina's Avatar
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    Dravania
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    Wow, I looked at the past few pages and.... well, just wow. I've been in MMO's 18 years too, but I don't have that attitude. FFS, that old man needs to pull his head out of his ass.

    Thankfully - I know the community is better than this. Hell, I've seen proof of it with my own eyes the past couple days.

    Question: What do you do when you get a free FFXIV key from twitch prime and your wife already plays?
    Answer: You offer it to your teenage daughter.

    Question: What happens when random people in a DF discover that you and your wife and running your daughter through her first MMO?
    Answer: The biggest shows of patience and kindness I have ever experienced in an MMO.

    That was my entire Friday. I helped my daughter through Sastasha, Copperbell, Tam Tara, and baby Ifrit. And the kindness we received from 4 different random healers in all those runs really did my heart some good that day. If any of you remember helping the "Stormmoon" clan through any of those runs Friday - thank you so much for your patience and kindness. You gave my daughter a wonderful first impression of this community. While I understand (and have warned her) of the seedier parts of it - it's great that you all started out on the right foot.
    This is so cool! I wish I could have been one of those healers because your post reminds me so much of a married couple and their daughter who used to be in my FC. Their daughter never really talked though. The couple would speak for her because she was on controller and didn't have a USB keyboard. So there was a lot of, "She says, thank you" and "she really appreciates all the help guys", stuff like that. Every once in a while though, she would use the virtual keyboard to say a thing or two.

    Hopefully the three of you continue to find patient and helpful players and avoid the few rotten eggs that are out there in the future.
    (7)

  7. #19267
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    Wow, I looked at the past few pages and.... well, just wow. I've been in MMO's 18 years too, but I don't have that attitude. FFS, that old man needs to pull his head out of his ass.

    Thankfully - I know the community is better than this. Hell, I've seen proof of it with my own eyes the past couple days.

    Question: What do you do when you get a free FFXIV key from twitch prime and your wife already plays?
    Answer: You offer it to your teenage daughter.

    Question: What happens when random people in a DF discover that you and your wife and running your daughter through her first MMO?
    Answer: The biggest shows of patience and kindness I have ever experienced in an MMO.

    That was my entire Friday. I helped my daughter through Sastasha, Copperbell, Tam Tara, and baby Ifrit. And the kindness we received from 4 different random healers in all those runs really did my heart some good that day. If any of you remember helping the "Stormmoon" clan through any of those runs Friday - thank you so much for your patience and kindness. You gave my daughter a wonderful first impression of this community. While I understand (and have warned her) of the seedier parts of it - it's great that you all started out on the right foot.
    No, too sweet! Ack! The sugar...must resist....nooooo--

    D'AWWWWW
    (6)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  8. #19268
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Character
    Souji Hanamura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    While I'm fine with quick runs that go smoothly with no dialogue, I do like getting folks who need help, ask for it (or just patience) and who I can help either keep an eye on or explain things. I love mentoring, but on my own time, it's why I won't take the crown even though I'm eligible. I want to help folks who want to be helped when they need it, not lumped into parties with people who can't play and don't want to learn. I get enough of that in Alliance raids.
    (2)

  9. #19269
    Player
    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Nera Mistdancer
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    Wow, I looked at the past few pages and.... well, just wow. I've been in MMO's 18 years too, but I don't have that attitude. FFS, that old man needs to pull his head out of his ass.

    Thankfully - I know the community is better than this. Hell, I've seen proof of it with my own eyes the past couple days.

    Question: What do you do when you get a free FFXIV key from twitch prime and your wife already plays?
    Answer: You offer it to your teenage daughter.

    Question: What happens when random people in a DF discover that you and your wife and running your daughter through her first MMO?
    Answer: The biggest shows of patience and kindness I have ever experienced in an MMO.

    That was my entire Friday. I helped my daughter through Sastasha, Copperbell, Tam Tara, and baby Ifrit. And the kindness we received from 4 different random healers in all those runs really did my heart some good that day. If any of you remember helping the "Stormmoon" clan through any of those runs Friday - thank you so much for your patience and kindness. You gave my daughter a wonderful first impression of this community. While I understand (and have warned her) of the seedier parts of it - it's great that you all started out on the right foot.
    That's just so, so, SO cute and sweet that I had to post to say it. Keep up the good work, and I hope that the bad side of the community (which thankfully is a minority) stays away from you.
    (3)

  10. #19270
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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Nov 2015
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    Character
    Laurent Vestra
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I just got out of Dzmael Darkhold. Had an Ast that would not put on a stance. Kept spamming aspected benefict on me. I told them that it doesn't do anything (other than a weak costly cure) without a stance. I am told, "I'm fine, just tank =)".

    This is gonna be a looooong road to 70 I can feel it.
    (4)

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