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  1. #19231
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    Baalfrog's Avatar
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    Alysanai Holt
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Overpower?
    Well, there are few reasons for it. 1. Overpower has 130 potency per mob, so spamming that is pretty good for AOE damage 2. It has increased enmity, so no need to singletarget spam butchers block combo which is inefficient (even if you spread the hits, its still inefficient) and 3. if you pop berserk and unchained, you make all your hits crit direct hit and lose the defiance damage loss (if it is up that is, which it doesnt really need to be when just spamming overpower). Everything takes more damage, and since damage is aggro, I don't really see the problem in it. Secondly, everything dies faster, which means less aoe spamming from the dpses and the healer (also less healing required) because everything just dies faster, whats not to love? If you goad the warrior, thats good, since that means more overpower and trash dies faster, its a good thing, not a bad thing! Bottoming out can happen (shouldnt go so low that you cant hit single target hits in the end though), but mobs should be almost dead when that happens anyway, then someone else is not doing their job...
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    Last edited by Baalfrog; 02-24-2019 at 12:34 PM. Reason: typo

  2. #19232
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
    -Snip-
    I'm going to assume you're the same Alexandrious from a website that I shall not name and, at the risk of getting banned for harassment, I'm just going to re-quote myself from said website [with some edits]:

    To quote you - "too much ignorance here or lack of logic" from you. You want to be taken seriously? Drop the ego, and give the credentials. What you've killed, when you've killed it, what FC you were in that you killed it with, etc etc.

    Claiming "I am very experienced", you'll "likely get scouted for a top 3 FC as soon as [you] make an appearance", stating you have "extremely hard to get boss related titles" without any supporting evidence and with an air of condescension and arrogance in your post(s) is gonna get you [some very negative attention].

    [-Redacted section here-]

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out - based on the multiple replies you've gotten in this thread, your ego isn't welcomed here.
    Honestly, if you are the same poster (and given the ego, it certainly feels like it), I know this advice will fall on deaf ears, so, may your adventures in Eorzea have you kicked from many parties for your ego, arrogance, and ignorance.

    Good bye.
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  3. #19233
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    Drayce1's Avatar
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    Ceciliantas Dragorath
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosentretter View Post
    You're just unbelievable lol. Go back to your elitist cave. You did your vent here, it was read, move on to the next story, please!
    Naw, I think I rather do what needs to be done.

    Same for Ghishlain.
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  4. #19234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
    No, its not, its an incentive to get Exp and some tokens or both depending on where your at, and its why people will DC themselves just to get thru quicker time to time. Is it reality check time already?
    It's an incentive for veterans, which in turn allows the newer players to be able to actually queue for it in a decent amount of time, rather than waiting upwards of an hour for it. Learn your facts before you come here, citing ToS, because technically, you broke ToS too by wanting new players to speed up. Pot calling the kettle black here, eh?
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  5. #19235
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baalfrog View Post
    Well, there are few reasons for it. 1. Overpower has 130 potency per mob, so spamming that is pretty good for AOE damage 2. It has increased enmity, so no need to singletarget spam butchers block combo which is inefficient (even if you spread the hits, its still inefficient) and 3. if you pop berserk and unchained, you make all your hits crit direct hit and lose the defiance damage loss (if it is up that is, which it doesnt really need to be when just spamming overpower). Everything takes more damage, and since damage is aggro, I don't really see the problem in it. Secondly, everything dies faster, which means less aoe spamming from the dpses and the healer (also less healing required) because everything just dies faster, whats not to love? If you goad the warrior, thats good, since that means more overpower and trash dies faster, its a good thing, not a bad thing! Bottoming out can happen (shouldnt go so low that you cant hit single target hits in the end though), but mobs should be almost dead when that happens anyway, then someone else is not doing their job...
    They would basically bottom out it's how they'd end up losing hate and they didn't seem to notice it's a cone. Things weren't dying fast either time I ran into the same tank. I'm also not sure if they were using anything to help or cool downs, but they must have or the healers were that good.
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  6. #19236
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    It's an incentive for veterans, which in turn allows the newer players to be able to actually queue for it in a decent amount of time, rather than waiting upwards of an hour for it. Learn your facts before you come here, citing ToS, because technically, you broke ToS too by wanting new players to speed up. Pot calling the kettle black here, eh?
    In a rose tinted world you can go ahead and believe that. Sure. Heres Reality.

    Its another way for "Vets" aka, anyone who can honestly que for it *rolls eyes* to get some big exp bonus, and will do it in however fast as humanly possible.

    Furthermore, I never said I wanted them to speed up, they can take ALL the time in the world, Ill just be up ahead with whoever else wants to, doing it all for them.
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  7. #19237
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    Also purposely dcing is against the tos, so stating that you've done that isn't bright either. Doing it for them is part of the reason they made the CSes unskippable without disconnecting in the first place so that new people can enjoy those fights without worry that they're missing something or get lost.
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  8. #19238
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
    In a rose tinted world you can go ahead and believe that. Sure. Heres Reality.

    Its another way for "Vets" aka, anyone who can honestly que for it *rolls eyes* to get some big exp bonus, and will do it in however fast as humanly possible.

    Furthermore, I never said I wanted them to speed up, they can take ALL the time in the world, Ill just be up ahead with whoever else wants to, doing it all for them.
    I mean wouldn't a veteran want to actually help people instead of dig his ego into a MSQ roulette where you can just AFK and clear it and reap the benefits? You literally are just making yourself sound more and more egotistical with every post, it's a shame we have people like you in FFXIV who only think of themselves. You're right MSQ gives a ton of EXP but someone as petty as you I'd just refuse to heal them or I'd just kick you don't need someone who contradicts himself saying that you don't pay my sub when you don't respect others.

    Good thing I didn't play MMOs for 18 years guess it shows that they don't mature in 18 years either.
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  9. #19239
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I mean wouldn't a veteran want to actually help people instead of dig his ego into a MSQ roulette where you can just AFK and clear it and reap the benefits? You literally are just making yourself sound more and more egotistical with every post, it's a shame we have people like you in FFXIV who only think of themselves. You're right MSQ gives a ton of EXP but someone as petty as you I'd just refuse to heal them or I'd just kick you don't need someone who contradicts himself saying that you don't pay my sub when you don't respect others.

    Good thing I didn't play MMOs for 18 years guess it shows that they don't mature in 18 years either.
    Nope. When you done something over and over and over and over and over and over again you decide you wanna get it done quickly. But since I understand the Human psyche better than most, ill let you all in on a secret.

    All of you saying things against me, has done your share of bad acts, one way or the other before.

    So dont think your all of any clear conscious, im sure some heck most of you, did more bad things than I ever did. So don't go thinking your so high and mighty.

    Its easy to point fingers isnt it? When you don't have your own dirty laundry revealed to show, huh?

    Keep in mind, some of us actually work real jobs, thus our time is limited, if we can save time to be able to spend it progressing further or doing something else, those of us with full time jobs will do it.

    Thats how the world works.

    Sighs anyway. May just be time to see about a thread closure.....

    As for SannaR, do people here not have reading comprehension? Meme joke I know. Ah...that guy. I never said I dced myself, though, I known of others who did. Regardless, Forums is Forums, game is game. People who cant understand that, their are those unwilling to wait lengths of needless time when its not needed, should get lost.
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    Last edited by Drayce1; 02-24-2019 at 01:06 PM.

  10. #19240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drayce1 View Post
    Nope. When you done something over and over and over and over and over and over again you decide you wanna get it done quickly. But since I understand the Human psyche better than most, ill let you all in on a secret.

    All of you saying things against me, has done your share of bad acts, one way or the other before.

    So dont think your all of any clear conscious, im sure some heck most of you, did more bad things than I ever did. So don't go thinking your so high and mighty.

    Keep in mind, some of us actually work real jobs, thus our time is limited, if we can save time to be able to spend it progressing further or doing something else, those of us with full time jobs will do it.

    Thats how the world works.

    Sighs anyway. May just be time to see about a thread closure.....
    Yeah that's the definition of an MMO you do things over and over and over until the cows come home FFXIV isn't any different, WoW isn't any different, FFXI isn't any different so I don't get how that's relevant at all it's out of respect for the rest of the party members I don't shout at them to D/C to speed a MSQ up, hell it's probably their first time. Don't make this into a pity party you opened your mouth and we're just disagreeing don't start a moral crusade on how we've done bad stuff it's common sense lmao, if anything this tells me more about you than I wanted to know.

    I work shift work 12 hours 5 on 3 off/5 on 4 off rotating, I work enough, raid enough, play with all my friends enough and I still find enjoyment with them your points moot you can be a casual, hardcore doesn't matter everyone does MSQ roulette despite it and most of them aren't jerks like you. Just being a reasonable human being and not a crock of crap to come into a public forums and say that you're going to close a thread because you're offended, grow up you came in here and we disagreed and now you're playing the victim I disagreed with you because out of respect I'd never D/C and try and speed things up because I que'd up knowing I can't skip them.

    That's just how the world works being a decent human being and not being a selfish person in an MMO but you learned that in your 18 years of playing them right?
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