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  1. #111
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    jon041065's Avatar
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    Amson Beoulve
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I wanted a job (preferred tank or melee support) that uses enemy abilities as a large part of their gameplay. Nothing else mattered as much as that as long as I could main it in the full game. I much rather have XIV's version of blu over FFV's version put into the game and blu being tied to a mini game.
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  2. #112
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    Arkfrost's Avatar
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    Luma Arkfrost
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Honestly? This whole "BLU spells are too stronk and disabling them in duties wouldn't be fun" sounds purely like an excuse. The only spells, that are actually broken (and how to fix them) are:

    - Doom (simply make bosses immune against it. bosses are immune to several things like knockback, stun, sleep, paralysis, etc. anyway)
    - Level 5 Petrify (see Doom. Also, only works on enemies with a level which is a multiple of 5. If I recall correctly raidbosses usually have a level of ??, so wouldn't work anyway)
    - Missile (see Doom)
    - Peculiar Light (reduce the magic vunerability from 30% to 10%, so it's basically a trick attack for magic damage)
    - Tail Screw (see Doom - doesn't work on many bosses anyway already)
    - White Wind (give it an actually realistic healing potency)

    After this Bluemage would rather be underpowered, than overpowered and his spell's potencies would have to be massively increased. I mean, srsly. BLU's strongest spell that can be continuously cast has a potency of 130. Even Black Mage's Blizzard 1 has a potency of 180. So BLU would rather need to have all his potencies doubled.
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  3. #113
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    You didn't want Blue Mage, you wanted another job. Blue Mage sounded fun, but you were never actually interested in Blue Magic. You wanted to learn your skills through scripted quests. You wanted all your skills to just be part of a rotation and for it to be balanced against all other classes so you could take it into raids. This could have been any class.

    Blue Mage has always been a niche class. It doesn't appear in a lot of Final Fantasy games and you could see how surprised people were with the AF. It seems like a great deal of people who were upset at this job being a "limited job" didn't realize that the AF matches it's original incarnation in FFV.

    SE is coming up with a really neat idea here. They're creating a class that's completely original to level, completely original to gain skills, completely broken for normal game content, and you're all getting mad for it. The way this game is made, you could not keep BLU true to it's form. This is the only way BLU can be handled in this game and it's a fantastic way of handling it.
    Wrong the game could have handle blue like wow does druid

    Blue can be every role in the game depending on its skill set...

    Dont say dumb things you know nothing about many ppl who have desired blue mage MAIN BLUE mage in ffxi or have mostly used blue in all other ff games... you know back when final fantasy games REQUIRED SKILL AND PAITENCES. I remember in xi took about 5 months 2 learn ice breaker and bad breath alone..

    Im not mad its limited but i am disappointed in them i can deal with limit jobs what i cant deal with is the cane of all weapon possibility a cane...

    Coulda been a whip or even a fork but damn a cane was a pathic choice

    And broken lol non of blue mages are broken 1000 thorns maybe until lvl 40 but after that its worthless and mighty guard the way it was done isn't even as strong as drk,war stance..

    The level abilitys miss 98 times out of 99

    Your only vaild point might be bad breath but that's not rlly op are broken ..

    Blue mages abilitys aren't nearly as broken as rdms lol

    Plus um blue mages can do raids and dungeons and primal fights can still get loot in unsync so that excuse is not valid lol..

    The only thing blue cant do that you can is alliance stuff and pvp
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    Last edited by MorbolvampireQueen6; 02-23-2019 at 11:58 PM.

  4. #114
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I dont get Blue Mage, this class is a limited class, because they wanted to make it a solo and OP class. I joined the Blue Mage class a month after it was released and right now:

    1- Finding groups to farm the skills in dungeon, is not possible. I tried recruiting others, but people dont want to do it.
    2- I die way to fast and when I try using the tank stance, my DPS is too low, this means farming dungeons solo for the skills is also not possible.

    I am confused and feel like I am missing something or or doing something wrong. Could a Blue Mage that has all skills please tell me what I am supposed to do? Its like the class is nothing like what Yoshida promised when he revealed this limited job.
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  5. #115
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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I dont get Blue Mage, this class is a limited class, because they wanted to make it a solo and OP class. I joined the Blue Mage class a month after it was released and right now:

    1- Finding groups to farm the skills in dungeon, is not possible. I tried recruiting others, but people dont want to do it.
    2- I die way to fast and when I try using the tank stance, my DPS is too low, this means farming dungeons solo for the skills is also not possible.

    I am confused and feel like I am missing something or or doing something wrong. Could a Blue Mage that has all skills please tell me what I am supposed to do? Its like the class is nothing like what Yoshida promised when he revealed this limited job.
    I predicted that new Blue Mages would find themselves in exactly that situation. The decision to lock the primal abilities behind the EX fights and lots of others behind ARR dungeons with no way to use Duty Finder was misguided and short-sighted. This class was designed with no hope of surviving past 2 weeks.
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  6. #116
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    This class was designed with no hope of surviving past 2 weeks.
    Pretty much. It's not called Sightseeing Log Mage for nothing. Sadly, if you're a BLU that got late to the party your only option is to beg someone to carry you.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 02-24-2019 at 07:53 AM.

  7. #117
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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Rama Kagon
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I predicted that new Blue Mages would find themselves in exactly that situation. The decision to lock the primal abilities behind the EX fights and lots of others behind ARR dungeons with no way to use Duty Finder was misguided and short-sighted. This class was designed with no hope of surviving past 2 weeks.
    I totally agree with you: I surprisingly found the blue mage more enjoyable than I thought with a much better leveling experience than any other class so far (seriously it should be the default leveling speed, it's so much better and I had a great time) and the fact I need to go around the world and learn spells from enemies was more enjoyable than I thought it would be and makes a completely dead world relevant again! I was sincerely enjoying until I had the massive block of "limitations" that would require me to beg for groups, and now that it's essentially forgotten I have an incomplete blue book with most of the spells coming from primals and other minor dungeons with practically no possible way to get them now. I can't even find linkshells or anything for that. I was glad that I could manage to beat the carnival but the fact it's limited makes me cry so much in what could possibly be a real hybrid class. Except it's just a limited class with limitations because it's supposedly OP but it isn't.

    Oh well, I shouldn't be surprised by this anymore and I suppose we'll have to wait 5.55 or 6.0 for a decent blue mage. Just like always.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 02-24-2019 at 08:35 AM.

  8. #118
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I predicted that new Blue Mages would find themselves in exactly that situation. The decision to lock the primal abilities behind the EX fights and lots of others behind ARR dungeons with no way to use Duty Finder was misguided and short-sighted. This class was designed with no hope of surviving past 2 weeks.
    Same. I saw it from the announcement as well. It was clear to anyone with common sense that they were going to keep the primal acquire rate as low as possible in order to try and pad out the content for as long as they could.

    It only made the players resent the developers.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #119
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    Purgatori Sakkara
    World
    Sophia
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    Dark Knight Lv 92
    I'm not mad about it being a limited job, I'm made that the job is no good to me as a casual/mostly-solo player, because I'll never be able to unlock the majority of its spells or complete the masked carnivale.
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  10. #120
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Not true, a friend of mine on was excited for blue mage and wanted to play it.
    He is happy with results but disappointed at the same time that some of the fights inside arena are very hard and that he says the blue mage was talked about in high regard as a power house the whole reason it is a limited job and the job is weak.
    He liked the challenge but at the same time didn't feel like restarting and the moved especially on shiva he could never learn ever which isn't the true blue mage way he said.

    He said he play it more if shadowbringer expansion does something for it but he put it on shelf for now.
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