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  1. #961
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    To compel means to "force" someone to do something.
    And how would you force someone to do anything in the game? You can't.
    It is not really possible to force anyone to do anything in the game - if they don't want to do it, you can't make them, only try to convince them.
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  2. #962
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    And how would you force someone to do anything in the game? You can't.
    It is not really possible to force anyone to do anything in the game - if they don't want to do it, you can't make them, only try to convince them.
    I know! But many people feel “forced” by just suggesting something to them lol.
    Even though this game forces you to do mechanics a certain way, you won’t see people complaining about that.

    People need to use their brains more often.
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  3. #963
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    And how would you force someone to do anything in the game? You can't.
    It is not really possible to force anyone to do anything in the game - if they don't want to do it, you can't make them, only try to convince them.
    As I said:

    "Perhaps a good example would be that you don't like someone's rotation... if you try to force them to change their rotation by threatening to kick them or something, that's probably punishable."
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  4. #964
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    As I said:

    "Perhaps a good example would be that you don't like someone's rotation... if you try to force them to change their rotation by threatening to kick them or something, that's probably punishable."
    That's not the definition though. Maybe you'll be kicked, but you have a choice still. The most force used against you is the act of kicking itself, which they can just take out of the game.
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  5. #965
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    That's not the definition though. Maybe you'll be kicked, but you have a choice still. The most force used against you is the act of kicking itself, which they can just take out of the game.
    That IS the defintion:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force

    You most certainly can force people to do things through threats or intimidation. "To Force" does not mean to literally have no choice. It can colloquially mean to have no choice, but that is a misnomer, because you always have a choice.
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  6. #966
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    That IS the defintion:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force

    You most certainly can force people to do things through threats or intimidation. "To Force" does not mean to literally have no choice. It can colloquially mean to have no choice, but that is a misnomer, because you always have a choice.
    Let's say I agree with you, where's the line between feeling forced and not? When someone takes an issue with your play style, how do you determine that you aren't about to get kicked if you decide to disagree?
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  7. #967
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post

    You most certainly can force people to do things through threats or intimidation.
    Certainly, but there are very few threats that actually have any power behind them in the game, and intimidation would be even harder to manage.
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  8. #968
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    Great. Further discrimination on Class Players and Blue Mages. As if we don't have ENOUGH problems from the Raider community at large...so much for unique gameplay experiences. I blame Yoshi-P.
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  9. #969
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    So, when I suggested to the group after a wipe that players who get the purple beams run to the pillars around the outer edge to get rid if them might be bannable if the some player likes having purple beams on them for some reason?
    Not quite.
    According to the new terms your statement is bannable if a GM finds that your suggestion is "harassment" of any kind, which it clearly is: how dare you comment on other peoples actions/voice your opinion.

    As a well-behaved FF14 player I hope you report everyone for the tiniest things, as clearly the new terms encourage such a behavior.
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    Last edited by Millybonk; 02-24-2019 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuwabaraValefor View Post
    Great. Further discrimination on Class Players
    The what now?
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