Gender locked race?

[Roda]

Gonna add to this, considering the previous comment this one seems to be replying to. Being "feminine" also doesn't necessarily equal being weak or not "fierce." Going off of other fantasy races, the elves in LotR were described in ways we would think of as more feminine, yet they were still badass. It IS possible for a pretty boy to be a badass.

Non-sequitur: I keep saying to others and myself I'm done with these threads. Yet I keep coming back. Fanfest cannot come fast enough.

Don't lie to yourself, these threads are a delicious guilty pleasure.

[stormygabe]

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Oh god this is a personal attack.

[Roda]

Oh god this is a personal attack.

Against myself!
I'm literally responding between pulls.
It's raid night for me!

[ArcaneCarbuncle]

Gonna add to this, considering the previous comment this one seems to be replying to. Being "feminine" also doesn't necessarily equal being weak or not "fierce." Going off of other fantasy races, the elves in LotR were described in ways we would think of as more feminine, yet they were still badass. It IS possible for a pretty boy to be a badass.

Non-sequitur: I keep saying to others and myself I'm done with these threads. Yet I keep coming back. Fanfest cannot come fast enough.

Edit: I love that doodle!

And female xaela are supposed to be fierce warriors of the steppe, and yet we got tiny waifus. /shrug
There's been a decent discussion on the physique best suited to the males a hundred pages back or so, and i'm not really keen on doing it again.
I'm all for male viera being lean and cut, but I would be pretty disappointed with "bulky".
For critique mode that face is a bit too boyish for my imagining, but I just chalked that up to every race having their young face, and the body is a bit thin, but not too far off from my personal ideal, and it really could just be a fidelity thing, not showing the full details of the physique. But the limb proportions and overall height looks good to me. Fit, lithe, like a gymnast, like a dancer.

To add to these: Just look at female Viera. They're every bit the fierce Warriors the males are (just fighting on different Fronts, so to say), and they are still very slender. Hell, in FFXII, Fran kicked the <kupo> out of multiple armored enemies, and that Woman for all her badassery... bad-ass...ness?, (you know what I mean) sure as hell isn't 'bulky', so why would realism all of a sudden apply to male Viera?
Plus, if we were to talk realistically, 'bulk' isn't solely down to muscle mass, bone structure plays a role too. If male Viera have slender shoulders (as they realistically could have given their 'quirk' of being virtually indistinguishable from the females until puberty and then don't age all that much after) they wouldn't appear classically 'bulky' if they tried. Toned, yes, but not bulky.

[cicatriz313]

All of this makes a lot of sense. I wouldn't really want a feminine male race but if that's how they choose male Viera to look can't really argue against it. I would just still put my vote in the Hrothgar tab

[CoolDad]

Thank you for the kindness in response to the sketches guys ^^ And I know the poster edited it out (I didn't find it rude don't worry) but I totally agree the female Hrothgar could have been more muscular! I'm not too great at drawing big muscles but I do think they would look very good on a female beast race.

As for how people have many different ways they want the races to be implemented, I think while people still have preferences most of us are just spitballing designs. The designs we make aren't the only way we would accept them appearance-wise. They could design Male Viera in many different ways and I think I'd like most of them. Anything is better than them not existing period, at least for me.

[Tsumdere]

Congrats on 200 guys! I sketched out possible male Viera and female Hrothgar designs that I'd like. I'm not very good at outfit design so forgive that >o>

I love her.

[Taykawai]

The draw is nice, but another cat like race is so weird... what SE was thinking?

[Shougun]

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OH MY GOD ITS 3AM AND I HAVE THINGS TO DO AT 6... O_O. Just one more turn.

I don't really see them as being overly feminine and child-like. They're meant to be fierce protectors of the forest and are even more isolated than their female counterparts - not to mention more solitary, suggesting a large degree of self reliance. Realistically that'd result in a decent amount of bulk - as seen in the more muscular concept art. It'd also reflect the effects of a tribal lifestyle as we know it in the real world.

Aye, I'd prefer bulk as well. I can understand those wanting something else, so it's not like I can't conceive the idea someone wants lean and cute or whatever but it is not my choice design.

Like I could see a Kuja like race/option set up being popular, but like.. I'd NEVER play it lol. I'd sooner play a female, which I seldom do, than a too feminine male (out of my own preference, I don't hate they exist but I'd not choose it for my own image).


If Hrothgar is a bulky thing then I don't really want to "wish" my opinion of bulky Viera onto others who don't want it, but if Hrothgar isn't a thing then I can't help but let my selfish desire overtake the "understanding" and wish "bulk viera, bulky viera, lets go plz".

I wish clans were used more dynamically though, then I'd wish for a masculine heavy to medium (based on options) clan and a medium to very light masculine (high feminine) option for most diversity. Unfortunately it seems clans are often color switches and a few changes to other things, not like Hyur which gives you a strong difference in options.

[SpiritMuse]

bc soft males aren't really a thing at *all* in ffxiv unless you count our popotoes. and after au'ra, i really, very, strongly think that the "next new race" to be a giant hulking beast of a man would be.....completely unnecessary. BOYS CAN BE SOFT, TOO, YOSHI ;^;

So much this. We already have so many fierce bulky men in this game, there is a glut of choice in that area. Give us a soft, cute one, for once, please! I would Fantasia so fast.