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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Well, I don't think it would be selfish if people wanted the outfits to be purchased for the same amount or at least close towards the same purchasing price. I bought the outfits myself because I love FFX, but I can't lie and say that I wouldn't be miffed if they go into the Mogstation for $7.00 when I had to pay $30.
    As far as I recall you got the outfits and the Yuna minion along with the fanfest virtual ticket. You personally may have been paying for just the outfits, but SE were selling you more than that.

    If I am remembering the above correctly, then expect the items to be on the mog station for cheaper. First of all it's likely that the two outfits and the minion will be sold separately instead of being in a package, and secondly for obvious reasons SE won't also be selling a fan fest virtual ticket.

    If I am wrong then please remind me of the relationship between the acquisition of the item codes and the fan fest ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    As far as I recall you got the outfits and the Yuna minion along with the fanfest virtual ticket. You personally may have been paying for just the outfits, but SE were selling you more than that.

    If I am remembering the above correctly, then expect the items to be on the mog station for cheaper. First of all it's likely that the two outfits and the minion will be sold separately instead of being in a package, and secondly for obvious reasons SE won't also be selling a fan fest virtual ticket.

    If I am wrong then please remind me of the relationship between the acquisition of the item codes and the fan fest ticket.
    Regardless if SE was selling more than that at the time with the outfits, the outfits and minion was used as an incentive to purchase the $30 fanfest ticket too as those were items that you could only get by paying a one-time $30 transaction, and yes I did watch the fanfest as it gave me background noise at night while working on some stuff. However, it's not wrong to want the fanfest items to be equal or close towards the pre-existing price that they were thrown into. They don't have to be $30, but they should be close towards that amount, maybe at least half which would be $15 or $10 since, like you said, they'll be kept separate anyways.

    So, as example math:

    Yuna outfit = $10 each

    Tidus outfit = $10 each

    Yuna, Rikku, or Lulu minions = $5 or $7 each

    Total Amount for a both outfits and 1 minion = $25-$27

    That seems kinda adequate.

    And even if someone just wants an outfit or 1 minion, it'll still be $15 or $17 which is about half of the fanfest price or a little over. That at least seems fair to me.

    I honestly don't think it's a terrible thing to expect other people to pay a fair price like the previous people did, selling them for far lesser just because the fanfest ticket isn't with them just makes it seem like SE is disingenuous towards the people who paid more to have access to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Regardless if SE was selling more than that at the time with the outfits, the outfits and minion was used as an incentive to purchase the $30 fanfest ticket too as those were items that you could only get by paying a one-time $30 transaction, and yes I did watch the fanfest as it gave me background noise at night while working on some stuff. However, it's not wrong to want the fanfest items to be equal or close towards the pre-existing price that they were thrown into. They don't have to be $30, but they should be close towards that amount, maybe at least half which would be $15 or $10 since, like you said, they'll be kept separate anyways.
    Whether the fanfest was just backround noise to you or not is irrelevant. You still paid for access to it.

    As for the items being an incentive. Yes that's true but how does this mean they should be priced as if they still come with fanfest access when they no longer would? People would be paying the same as you but would be getting less. That's pretty crappy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    So, as example math:

    Yuna outfit = $10 each

    Tidus outfit = $10 each

    Yuna, Rikku, or Lulu minions = $5 or $7 each

    Total Amount for a both outfits and 1 minion = $25-$27

    That seems kinda adequate.
    This math will only look right if you're not aware of how the outfits currently work. Currently you can't have both the Tidus and Yuna outfits on one character. You get tokens you can exchange for pieces of either outfit. You can swap them if you change your mind later, but the point is you can never have both outfits at the same time. So this could mean the fanfest ticket price itself is worth more than you think.

    That being said the prices you projected for the items seem about right when compared to similar items on the mog station. But it also means if you and I wanted to own both outfits at once on the same character we would have to buy another, and that's an extra $10. We would be paying another fee on top of the fanfest and goodies bundle. That's $40, not $30.

    Considering the pricing you put on the items is the same as many similar items on the mog station, then we can conclude that the virtual ticket is worth around $10. Assuming SE would agree with the prices you projected.

    Players rarely buy gender locked outfits they can't use on their character. So this means that most players interested in the items for use on their character would buy only one outfit. While you and I can exchange one outfit for the other, lets face it...it's not too different to having only one outfit considering we can't wear Tidus's outfit unless we fantasia. The advantage we have is if we do change gender we don't have to buy a second outfit. We can just swap them.

    But your prices look right and you seem happy with them. I think the prices are reasonable as well. So while the math isn't as straight forward as you presented it, we do agree on the prices the items should be. While we have different opinions on what is worth what with the virtual ticket bundle, in the end we come to the same conclusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Whether the fanfest was just backround noise to you or not is irrelevant. You still paid for access to it.

    As for the items being an incentive. Yes that's true but how does this mean they should be priced as if they still come with fanfest access when they no longer would? People would be paying the same as you but would be getting less. That's pretty crappy.
    That's why I don't think they should ever have those incentives be sold separately, because they weren't sold in the first place. They were bonus for purchasing the fan fest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
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    Well, also, keep in mind that even if the outfits are gender locked and you can't use both on one character. It is quite possible for someone to still have a female main character and a male alt or vice versa. So, it could still be possible to have both outfits on one service account, but, like you said, just not on the same character itself. My main and most of my alts are females, however, I do have one male alt as well and the tickets automatically turn into Tidus's garb since the outfit reward itself is account wide and therefore, will be an in-game mailing reward upon the creation of another character no matter what.
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