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  1. #19161
    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Dun Scaith? 2 wipes to Deathgaze Hollow enrage. People are... not good at this game. It was pushing my buttons how frequently I was having to raise. Every single stupid aero, void doom (pull in), or void blizzard SOMEONE falls off or dies. I have limits and I'm going to impose harsher ones eventually. How about if you get brink I stop raising you -_-
    Deathgaze is a tricky battle with a lot of instant-death mechanisms if you're new and don't know what to look for. It takes at least a few runs to get used to it and "learn the dance", and you can stilll get caught out because you didn't notice something.

    Raising people is your job, and this is a battle designed to put players in need of it.
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  2. #19162
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Deathgaze is a tricky battle with a lot of instant-death mechanisms if you're new and don't know what to look for. It takes at least a few runs to get used to it and "learn the dance", and you can stilll get caught out because you didn't notice something.

    Raising people is your job, and this is a battle designed to put players in need of it.
    I'd be happy to raise but people weren't learning. People that die far too much is a drain on mp, which will be used to keep other people alive. Reminds me early in the expansion where there were no new people but 18 people fell off to void blizzard. If they were WILLING TO LEARN then that's another thing entirely.

    I did a second run afterwards. There were deaths but it was far more acceptable even if I was basically solo healing. There were no wipes.

    Edit: The boss never dipped below 20% on either of the two wipes. It was always 2-3 people dying, often per party, per mechanic. People like me are human you know and there are limits. My "job" isn't to be stuck in a raid until it times out unless it's new content. I'm used to one wipe but if there are two wipes with zero improvement you begin to wonder. Penalties exist for leaving and if it means I have to take one because I judged a group as a lost cause then so be it. Yes I am being harsh but there is one thing I keep in mind here: I am willing to teach, but I am not willing to teach people who are not willing to learn. Advice falls on deaf ears.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 02-19-2019 at 12:56 PM.

  3. #19163
    Player
    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    You can't voke-shirk in 24-man raids.
    Correct. I was just using what we do in 8-man duties as a point of reference. Even in 24-mans you should stand with the other tank(s) if you have any intention of taking a boss off of them. Talking about Voke-Shirk was just to establish the timing for when we do it.
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  4. #19164
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Character
    Saleemius Arishiani
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Today on this episode of Levelling roullete shenanigans,I went in as a SMN to level up,I get the Aerys with a WHM,another SMN and a Dark Knight,the dark knight proceeds to die literally on the first group of mobs without cooldowns or anything.

    But the disaster isn't here,it's when we got to big bad Nidhogg.

    To this day people will never understand that you are SUPPOSED TO PROTECT ESTINIEN FROM THE ADS.Three wipes all of which was because the tank refused to pull the mobs away from estinien as they mow our poor boi's HP down faster than our poor WHM(bless them they tried) can heal him.Worse yet,the summoner refused to budge from their place for the whoooooole fight,as Nidhogg proceeds to trap me twice on all three pulls cuz today Nidhogg really has it for me for some reason,no one went to free me,neither the DRK nor the unbudging statue of a summoner heck he didn't even send his own pet towards me and of course as u can assume,I die,no joke,six times iirc all of which were from nidhogg's trap.So we wipe a third time and both the tank and SMN(whom I assume queued as a party of two)left the instance at the same time.Thankfully we got good replacements and finished the run but man.............I'm still baffled that to this day people think they can just completely ignore estinien during that fight and expect Nidhogg to give them a dravanian smooch on the cheek for it
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    Last edited by MetalSnakeXI1; 02-19-2019 at 09:59 PM.

  5. #19165
    Player
    Aosha's Avatar
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    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    First Expert of the week after reset, and hey it's one of those White Mages who actually uses Holy! And a Ninja who uses Shadewalker! That's even rarer! Happy day!
    ...Aaaand then I notice the Black Mage is using single target rotation on everything... Can't win them all...

    Went for o11n afterwards, for Wondrous Tails. Co-tank wanted to MT, and I obliged. Pretty much immediately after I Shirked him (gotta get rid of that Inner Release enmity), he died to the first Mustard Bomb. From full HP, in Shield Oath. I thought I even saw a Rampart go up. Weird. Oh well, took up my tank spot then, and things went... if not smooth, at least alright. 2-3 people died every Lar/Star (I even took a hit from one myself), someone ran into the middle circle in level checker, offtank tethers went off on the whole party most of the time, but no wipes. Late into the fight I took one of the Mustard Bombs with nothing but Holmgang, and it did only about 20%. Almost as if the damage of that one and the first one had been swapped. Strange stuff.
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  6. #19166
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Lilila Lila
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I'm leveling a new alt in order to acclimate myself to tanking and to have a dedicated tank alt. This alt, naturally, is Dante the Dark Knight.

    Anyway!

    Trial roulette gets me into Titan HM. No newbie bonus, shouldn't take more than five minutes. I maintank, everything is going good, then first landslide...two DPS are gone. Welp, just gotta soldier on I guess. Weight of the lands...one healer and a dps die. I put tank stance back on to lighten the load on the surviving healer. We manage to make it through gaol phase and titan's heart phase, and then the last dps gets landslided off.

    Seeing as we're perma-down to two tanks and a healer, I yeet myself off the side to reset. Second try this time with echo, shouldn't be too bad. They dodged landslides! ...then weight of the land murders all four dps at once. Oh well, two tanks and two healers can handle this trial. Titan's heart is dead, move on to the next pha...why aren't I getting heals? Like any at all?

    Look up to see both healers dead. I Buzz Lightyear myself off the edge again.

    Third pull. Someone starts explaining some tips for not dying, so I hold off on pulling until they're done...and then the RDM pulls. I sigh and let them hold it for a bit, but my till then OT took hate off and I relented. I vokeshirked my OT-now-MT to help them hold hate, and we scrape through the third pull with only one permadeath this time.
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  7. #19167
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    Kuukyo's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Horu Miyoshi
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Random post from non-Duty Finder trials.

    I hosted an unsynced Thordan EX party for bird farming and when 6 other people filled in asking to run the instance without a second tank, I told them it would be fine but I would have to ask someone to do certain mechanics later on.

    As soon as we got into the instance, I was typing to explain the mechanics later on when a DPS monk tackled in without any ready check/countdown. I was pissed off and until the spear part after Ultimate End, I decided to let the whole party wipe instead of saving the healer and called out "someone didn't want to hear the mechanic explanation". He left after that and we continued to do the trial after I explained the spear mechanic; despite taking longer than usual we managed to finish it and I got a bird as well <3

    Some people might think I'm an asshole for letting the party wipe, but the reason why I chose to do that because there are new people that were first-timer, or those who have ran this but not remember mechanics at all. I want everyone to at least make through the spear mechanics, but interrupting everything and rushing in like a headless chicken shows that people underestimate a lot of important mechanics, and I don't want to give them a free carry if they don't at least spend a few minutes to listen to explanation.
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  8. #19168
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    Rosentretter's Avatar
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    The Crystarium
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    Theodore Rosentretter
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I'm just absolutely exhausted of people being so idiot on every content I run now, but specially in the 24-man raids. And now with the recent changes you can't even bitch at them when they are really doing everything wrong and more, so you don't end up hurting their feelings. Failing the easiest of mechanics, not doing their job properly, and even when you give them advice to improve, they are just blind or deaf. I was literally solo healing The Thunder God, but you reach a point you run out of MP, Aetherflow, Lucid Dreaming and more, because you're ressing people, topping the tank, etc. And don't even make me start with the jerk tanks who pull without even doing a countdown... Or the DPS who think they are tanks. I just can't believe how people can't understand simple explanations, or react better to what's happening. To make it worst: handicapped guy on the weekend. Don't get me wrong, I'm not discriminating the guy, I was like "good for him he can play with a special controller" and blah. Then I explain a mechanic that everyone failed and made us wipe, and he had the guts to make fun of me. Like, wtf.

    I'm just so done with almost every player I see around. And sometimes I wish I could blacklist people from outside my party. Why is it not a thing yet...
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  9. #19169
    Player
    Kuukyo's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Horu Miyoshi
    World
    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosentretter View Post
    I'm just absolutely exhausted of people being so idiot on every content I run now, but specially in the 24-man raids. And now with the recent changes you can't even bitch at them when they are really doing everything wrong and more, so you don't end up hurting their feelings. Failing the easiest of mechanics, not doing their job properly, and even when you give them advice to improve, they are just blind or deaf. I was literally solo healing The Thunder God, but you reach a point you run out of MP, Aetherflow, Lucid Dreaming and more, because you're ressing people, topping the tank, etc. And don't even make me start with the jerk tanks who pull without even doing a countdown... Or the DPS who think they are tanks. I just can't believe how people can't understand simple explanations, or react better to what's happening. To make it worst: handicapped guy on the weekend. Don't get me wrong, I'm not discriminating the guy, I was like "good for him he can play with a special controller" and blah. Then I explain a mechanic that everyone failed and made us wipe, and he had the guts to make fun of me. Like, wtf.

    I'm just so done with almost every player I see around. And sometimes I wish I could blacklist people from outside my party. Why is it not a thing yet...
    You can actually go to Contact and blacklist the recent people who just played with you.
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  10. #19170
    Player
    Rosentretter's Avatar
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    Theodore Rosentretter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuukyo View Post
    You can actually go to Contact and blacklist the recent people who just played with you.
    Yeah, I meant, people from the other 2 alliances, sadly they don't appear there. Should've specified it.
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