Would you have paid monthly for FFXIV if it was released the way it is today?

[Zanfire]

The fact that they layed out that 2.0 was coming was a blessing and a complete screw up. It got everyone back on board, it brought some new light to the outside players that it may just come back to life at some point.

Of course telling us everything will be great then, all of the stupid little problems will be gone, great new features will be there (but only when 2.0 is here) then asking for us to pay for a year.....huh?!?

Tell me its a beta then tell me to pay for it....very poorly planned.

[Molly_Millions]

The fact that they layed out that 2.0 was coming was a blessing and a complete screw up. It got everyone back on board, it brought some new light to the outside players that it may just come back to life at some point.

Of course telling us everything will be great then, all of the stupid little problems will be gone, great new features will be there (but only when 2.0 is here) then asking for us to pay for a year.....huh?!?

Tell me its a beta then tell me to pay for it....very poorly planned.

2.0 beta doesn't start until Oct 2012 btw. We'll have new servers and a new client created from a different engine, how can this possibly be a beta for 2.0 when the same technologies won't even be involved. Riddle me that Batman?

[Alerith]

2.0 beta doesn't start until Oct 2012 btw. We'll have new servers and a new client created from a different engine, how can this possibly be a beta for 2.0 when the same technologies won't even be involved. Riddle me that Batman?

He likes to toss around the word "Beta" as if he knows what it means. Just ignore him.

I am looking forward to the server upgrades above most other things. Even content. The removal of much of the server based issues will be of tremendous help.

[Zanfire]

He likes to toss around the word "Beta" as if he knows what it means. Just ignore him.

I am looking forward to the server upgrades above most other things. Even content. The removal of much of the server based issues will be of tremendous help.

laying the groundwork for a new version of the game....sound like beta to me.

[DoctorMog]

laying the groundwork for a new version of the game....sound like beta to me.

Like every game that had an expansion.

Ever.

[TheVedis]

Like every game that had an expansion.

Ever.

beware logic

people are allergic to it

[Bahn]

Like every game that had an expansion.

Ever.

Most games that had an expansion were complete and did not have a billion things wrong with it before the expansion was released.

[Krausus]

Most games that had an expansion were complete and did not have a billion things wrong with it before the expansion was released.

CHALLENGE!!!!

list all 1 billion things wrong with the game!

[Zanfire]

Like every game that had an expansion.

Ever.

every other expansion changes fundemental combat, crafting, basic features, server structure, graphics engine, coding, online ifrustructure scraps the entire current world and story (and possibly content)

i wanna see those expansions...

[Monty]

every other expansion changes fundemental combat, crafting, basic features, server structure, graphics engine, coding, online ifrustructure scraps the entire current world and story (and possibly content)

i wanna see those expansions...

beware logic

people are allergic to it

I mean, these wars will never stop here, cept maybe after payment starts. You have the hardcore of hardcore with all jobs to level 50, friends to play the game with and healthy linkshells. They're happy, they don't really level anything, so they don't see how bad the game is starting from fresh in what is really a dead world at lower levels. Then you have the other people who join shells of lower level players, and the shell dies within weeks so, they in turn leave too. You try to find more people, but no dice cause all the hardcore shells have ridiculous requirements to enter their shell. "Level 50 and by association onry!"... great.

I still wouldn't of paid at this point because leveling and power leveling is so ridiculously broken right now, people accept plvling as is which is beyond retarded. Once I finally hit 50, I did a few of the battles...only to realize, I just need to level more shit at this point cause NONE of these events are a work in progress à la Dynamis, or Nyzul, or, well you take your pick from other games.

The shell that I joined about a month ago, which had tons of members, dead within a month and has if I'm lucky, 4 players online. That's a shit ton of people leaving in a short time, so no, I wouldn't pay for a game that people leave in droves. I've only been seeking/shouting for 2 weeks on my conjurer now to get a party, guess how many I've had...0! "Oh but dude, if you had a shell!" I have now, I've had 3, all of em have died. Those population numbers weren't worrysome to people like Mog and Vedis, cause they have people who are addicted to the game playing with them, not to mention no need to party for exp anymore. So to them, the game is lively, tons to talk to, drop your shells and try to play the game with no friends from scratch and get a party anywhere from 1-35ish by shouting and seeking. Let me tell you, it gets old fast.

Anyways, to end my rant, this game is still way behind if it were to be considered released today than most standard mmo's which have plenty of content and good party structure from the get go. Quite simply, you're in a hardcore active shell, the game is great and worth it, if your shells keep dying, the game is not worth 5 seconds of your time.