Revelations from Keynote II

[Fenral]

That is a really good reference shot, first off. Who? When? Where?

I agree that I'm not particularly wanting it to be G'raha, but rather that the clues seem too undeniable. I'm hesitant how it will play out, but then I'm feeling like that about Shadowbringers in its entirety...

I don't agree that the robes look "Ascian" though. We either discussed it here earlier or elsewhere, but they look more Allagan to me - which would fit with his "last of the Allagans" thing now.

I had a thought not so long ago, and while the viability depends entirely on how they feel about retiring an old weekly quest, I was toying with the idea that G'raha would need to be using another name if he were to appear, mostly because his name is actually fairly generic, having been pulled from the Naming Conventions document without much thought (or is it there because it's his name?). What name would he be using, you ask? Noah.

Either he'd be borrowing it ironically, or he'd actually be taken over voluntarily (or involuntarily) as host for a certain Archmagus who spends most of his time drunkenly lounging around Revenant's Toll. Last we spoke with him, he seemed very interested in G'raha's present state, after all. And I bet he could find Nero's scanner.

Or, even crazier:

There's also a possibility that he'll be calling himself "Desch" and end up Mide-ing himself into ancient Allag to fall into Salina's good graces and ultimately become his own ancestor, and that by inserting himself into Salina's memories to be witnessed by his past/future self, he'd leave a strong enough impression to convince himself to drop everything and entrust himself to Destiny, completing the loop.

But I came up with that one before Alexander did almost exactly that, so I'm not sure if it'd be paying off foreshadowing or just more reciprocal rehashing for stories with too much in common.

If anything, the closest suggestion that he might be a villain is that he's placed opposite Solus on the poster, where the other balanced pairs (Y'shtola and Urianger; Alphinaud and Alisaie) are allies. Though it also could be misdirection, or a simple case of them being "leftovers" without obvious pairs.

Or we're reading it backwards, and Solus is going to become our ally. :P

[Iscah]

That is a really good reference shot, first off. Who? When? Where?

Where did I get the screenshot, you mean? Straight from the game - cutscene #1 for the quest "For Prosperity". Rammbroes is in the foreground with G'raha standing further back.

I had a thought not so long ago, and while the viability depends entirely on how they feel about retiring an old weekly quest, I was toying with the idea that G'raha would need to be using another name if he were to appear, mostly because his name is actually fairly generic, having been pulled from the Naming Conventions document without much thought (or is it there because it's his name?). What name would he be using, you ask? Noah.

Either he'd be borrowing it ironically, or he'd actually be taken over voluntarily (or involuntarily) as host for a certain Archmagus who spends most of his time drunkenly lounging around Revenant's Toll. Last we spoke with him, he seemed very interested in G'raha's present state, after all. And I bet he could find Nero's scanner.

That definitely could be possible. He was the one who originally proposed the name, too.

There aren't any quest rewards from it that you can't easily buy with poetics... or perhaps they could even add a different version of the quest dialogue so it's now the (somewhat bewildered) real Koh Rabntah that is giving out the quest once Noah finds a new host.

On a side note though, it seems that the original Noah was female - unless it's a translation error, the lorebook uses female pronouns when talking about her specifically and not Koh.



Re. naming patterns, I don't think there was a "lack of thought" when naming him, rather that there is simply a limited format that all male Seeker characters have to follow. The tribe-letter and Tia title are both required, so the writers only get to choose the exact tribe and his given name Raha.

The name generator isn't going to ever give the name _'raha Tia, because Raha is actually taken from the 'female surnames' list - technically also a male names list, but not one that will ever be given to players. The writers seem to like using this list rather than the generated male name list.

[Keever]

I had a thought not so long ago, and while the viability depends entirely on how they feel about retiring an old weekly quest, I was toying with the idea that G'raha would need to be using another name if he were to appear, mostly because his name is actually fairly generic, having been pulled from the Naming Conventions document without much thought (or is it there because it's his name?). What name would he be using, you ask? Noah.

I don't think G'raha's name being "generic" is a particular issue. Lyse Hext, Fordola, Arenvald, Artoirel, Emmanellain, Hien, Kaien, and Gosetsu are all names straight out of the random name generator at character creation (the last three are "Raen" names).

[Fenral]

I don't think G'raha's name being "generic" is a particular issue. Lyse Hext, Fordola, Arenvald, Artoirel, Emmanellain, Hien, Kaien, and Gosetsu are all names straight out of the random name generator at character creation (the last three are "Raen" names).

Wow, uh, okay. Did not realize that. Mostly I was thinking in terms of existing character H'raha Tia, the MNK 60 boss, who is literally one letter off. I know the pool is finite, but that still seems careless to me.

[Iscah]

Wow, uh, okay. Did not realize that. Mostly I was thinking in terms of existing character H'raha Tia, the MNK 60 boss, who is literally one letter off. I know the pool is finite, but that still seems careless to me.

I think someone in the writing team might just like the name Raha. It's used (as O'raha) for one of the "construction examples" in the naming conventions guide as well.

As I mentioned earlier, from the "complete list of name-generator names" that I linked, it seems that it's not a name you could actually get out of the generator program. It's from the female surname list (female surnames actually being their father's name) which is separate from the list of male forenames and doesn't just repeat the same names over again.

[Daralii]

I think someone in the writing team might just like the name Raha. It's used (as O'raha) for one of the "construction examples" in the naming conventions guide as well.

As I mentioned earlier, from the "complete list of name-generator names" that I linked, it seems that it's not a name you could actually get out of the generator program. It's from the female surname list (female surnames actually being their father's name) which is separate from the list of male forenames and doesn't just repeat the same names over again.

It's probably just safe to assume that Raha is a super common Miqo'te name.