Summoner’s job identity

[Dyvid]

Okay, the devs have already stated that gameplay always comes first then they write the lore to fill the gaps. Meaning they can do whatever they want without being bound by story.

[Jukebox12]

Okay, the devs have already stated that gameplay always comes first then they write the lore to fill the gaps. Meaning they can do whatever they want without being bound by story.

if they change everything wouldn't they have to rework the lore

[Phoenicia]

if they change everything wouldn't they have to rework the lore

Aren't we talking about the same people that nuked the entire continent with a moon coming down to "rework" the whole game? Why are you so surprised?

[Jandor]

Same with trance, you go and learn it because you can’t learn any more egi. So you go to cartenau to be around Bahamut aether to learn trance. So if they wanted to change trance to say, summon Demi-primal, it would no longer make sense for you to go to cartenau and be around Bahamut aether, so that entire quest would need to be redone.

You could still keep the core of the quest, just have to alter the reason for going.

"Y'mhitra thinks we can get around the aetheric limitations by using an ancient allagan technique known as demi-summoning, channeling environmental aether in to your current egi."

"Following the Calamity the Carteneau Flats became soaked in all sorts of elementally aspected aether, the area is also a suitably remote testing ground for our potentially dangerous experimentation."

"Your meditations are interrupted Ascians, who vow to deny you the advantage of even greater Summoning!"

"Despite the relentless onslaught, you are able to complete the ritual and summon a Demi-Primal. Wary of your newfound strength, your foe chooses to withdraw rather than risk defeat."

Essentially it would need text changes and a cutscene altering, which is still more work than altering many other jobs to be fair.

Aren't we talking about the same people that nuked the entire continent with a moon coming down to "rework" the whole game? Why are you so surprised?

The team don't seem particularly fond of retcons, which is ultimately what a pre-70 to 80 replacement of trance, or egis in general, would involve. It's ok to talk about dropping meteors and rebooting the game, but 2.0 onwards is a continuation, not a retroactive change to what came before.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

What summoner i don't see a summoner just a geomancer with arcane magic summoning elemental crystals 2 help its dps

[Jukebox12]

can I hug you pretty please??

[Jukebox12]

derp Queen

it ain't geomancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phoenicia]

The team don't seem particularly fond of retcons, which is ultimately what a pre-70 to 80 replacement of trance, or egis in general, would involve. It's ok to talk about dropping meteors and rebooting the game, but 2.0 onwards is a continuation, not a retroactive change to what came before.

All I'm saying, keep an open miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind maaaaaaaaaaaan.

What summoner i don't see a summoner just a geomancer with arcane magic summoning elemental crystals 2 help its dps

Does that mean we deserve b00fs? YASS!

can I hug you pretty please??

Do you always hug strangers?

Mom said I shouldn't talk to strangers!

[Nirokun]

Yea... no. Only thing carby had going for it was low perp cost. FFXI's SMN 75/WHM 37 was nothing more than a poor man's healer with a few trick like aerial armor, stoneskin, and fenrir. At least in FFXIV you are a DPS with the ability to buff / debuff.

You didn't solo bombs in Ifrit's Cauldron and Aglooliks Uleguerand Range. Carbuncle was immensely useful for that. I had 1....1! party in the period when I was soloing bombs. That was a beastmaster party with my fenrir's eclipse bite providing extra oomph. After that, more bombs. Also, your puny character and your puny carbuncle doing the Trial-Size avatar fights was a special bonding experience because your carbuncle was your lifeline. At 75, my summoner was killing grand wyrms in canyons, crypts, and snowy mountains. I really, really loved ffxi summoner.

[Jukebox12]

Do you always hug strangers?

Mom said I shouldn't talk to strangers!

yes but I always ask first :P