Regarding the Revision of the Prohibited Activities and Account Penalty Policy

[WaterShield]

This whole issue baffles me. If you don't intend to break the rules why are you concerned? Just don't break the rules and you have nothing to worry about.

If you intend to break the rules then there would be cause for concern.

Some of the issues stated are very obvious right-and-wrong topics. For example, a "reasonable" person would understand that Stalking is not okay.

Because the rules state that if someone is offended, even if I did not intend to offend them, I am in contempt of the rules. All I have assuring me that they won't be used frivolously is other players saying that (paraphrased "nothing is really changing") When that is not the case according to the announcement. Hence my being upset.

[Anger]

Because the rules state that if someone is offended, even if I did not intend to offend them, I am in contempt of the rules. All I have assuring me that they won't be used frivolously is other players saying that (paraphrased "nothing is really changing") When that is not the case according to the announcement. Hence my being upset.

I CTRL+F'd "offend" in the prohibited activities article and that word isn't used once.

What I did see was: " "Harassment" means speech and/or behaviour that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person."

" "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:"

There's a vast difference between someone being "offended" and "having deep emotional distress inflicted upon them".

I think things are being misconstrued a bit here.

[WaterShield]

I CTRL+F'd "offend" in the prohibited activities article and that word isn't used once.

What I did see was: " "Harassment" means speech and/or behaviour that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person."

" "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:"

There's a vast difference between someone being "offended" and "having deep emotional distress inflicted upon them".

I think things are being misconstrued a bit here.

Who determines if someone is actually experiencing deep emotional distress by something? Can a GM reliably tell if my making a joke about cheese really triggered someone or not?

I AM EXPERIENCING DEEP EMOTIONAL DISTRESS RIGHT NOW!!!! Because of these changes. Is that not valid!?!?

"■Nuisance behaviour
"Nuisance behaviour" means speech or behaviour that hurts others or obstructs game play, but which is not classified as harassment. Even if it was not the intention, a penalty may be imposed if the end result was that another person was hurt or obstructed.

Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of nuisance behaviour:"

[Anger]

Who determines if someone is actually experiencing deep emotional distress by something? Can a GM reliably tell if my making a joke about cheese really triggered someone or not?

I AM EXPERIENCING DEEP EMOTIONAL DISTRESS RIGHT NOW!!!! Because of these changes. Is that not valid!?!?

Perhaps we can get to the root of your concern.

Do you feel like you do something in-game that would potentially be misconstrued as "deep emotional distress" on another person?

If so, please state what it is you may be concerned with and we can discuss whether or not we, as reasonable people, believe it is likely to be misconstrued.

[WaterShield]

Perhaps we can get to the root of your concern.

Do you feel like you do something in-game that would potentially be misconstrued as "deep emotional distress" on another person?

If so, please state what it is you may be concerned with and we can discuss whether or not we, as reasonable people, believe it is likely to be misconstrued.

There isn't anything that I do that I think is problematic. Like I stated earlier in this thread. I have never been contact by a GM, warned, or punished, for anything, ever.

I am incredibly concerned for the potential of abuse that these vague rules create. I would like to say my piece before things get awful, rather than wait to tell you "I told you so" next year.

[Anger]

There isn't anything that I do that I think is problematic. Like I stated earlier in this thread. I have never been contact by a GM, warned, or punished, for anything, ever.

I am incredibly concerned for the potential of abuse that these vague rules create.

Then you have nothing to worry about, WaterShield. You don't behave badly, according to what you're saying, and you don't do anything that "inflicts emotional distress" on someone. The GMs aren't going to start saying "because X person said they were offended Y person will be actioned"

[Lium]

There isn't anything that I do that I think is problematic. Like I stated earlier in this thread. I have never been contact by a GM, warned, or punished, for anything, ever.

I am incredibly concerned for the potential of abuse that these vague rules create. I would like to say my piece before things get awful, rather than wait to tell you "I told you so" next year.

Then this is not even crying over spilled milk. This is like throwing a tantrum over a carton of milk that hasn't even been opened yet. Not you specifically, but just the similar sentiments being expressed in this thread. If you have never in your life been contacted, warned or punished by a GM then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Period. Not now, not tomorrow. Not ever.

Based on what you said, you sound like a nice, respectful player. Nothing will change for you, or anyone like you. That's my point.

Y'all need to calm down. Go outside. Run some laps or something. Meditate, I dunno.

[Aulainn]

I CTRL+F'd "offend" in the prohibited activities article and that word isn't used once.

What I did see was: " "Harassment" means speech and/or behaviour that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person."

" "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:"

There's a vast difference between someone being "offended" and "having deep emotional distress inflicted upon them".

I think things are being misconstrued a bit here.

Nice cherry picking there.

・Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive
・Other expressions that are offensive to another person

[HyoMinPark]

I CTRL+F'd "offend" in the prohibited activities article and that word isn't used once.

The word “offensive” is used quite a bit, though. And, generally, if one finds something to be offensive, that means usually means that they are offended by it. Don’t be obtuse.

There's a vast difference between someone being "offended" and "having deep emotional distress inflicted upon them".

I think things are being misconstrued a bit here.

You also cannot provide a concrete measure for “deep emotional distress”, as it varies significantly between individuals.

[Anger]

The word “offensive” is used quite a bit, though. And, generally, if one finds something to be offensive, that means usually means that they are offended by it. Don’t be obtuse.

Yes, but it isn't stating "if you're offended" it's stating if something was offensive and: inflicts emotional distress

Example of something offensive that wouldn't inflict emotional distress: I do not like your glam.

Example of something offensive that inflicts emotional distress: berating them, or telling them to play a specific way.