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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    These new rules are pretty darn clear to me (with the exception of the "intentionally leaving" part, but another poster clarified that). And I think this is 46 pages of cultural freakout. Americans don't like ANYTHING that can be seen as restricting freedom of speech, even if no real restriction exists. We just like to over react because that's what Americans do.

    For example. If I was running a PUG dungeon and I noticed the SMN wasn't using any DOTs, and I said to them "Hey summoner, use your dots lol" and the SMN responded with "Don't tell me how to play my job! Reported!" (This actually happened once, but it was the tank who told the SMN to use their dots.), I could guarantee you nothing would happen to me. Because the GM would look at the chat logs and see I wasn't being snarky or antagonistic. If I had said something along the lines of what you would see in WoW or LoL, then yes, I'd get in trouble. And rightfully so.

    There is a clear distinction here.

    You realise NA includes all of North and South America, Caribbeans and many OCE and EU players that play. This isnt an "American" thing.

    Your post is quite offensive to exclude others according to the new revisions to policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zztoluca View Post
    You realise NA includes all of North and South America, Caribbeans and many OCE and EU players that play. This isnt an "American" thing.

    Your post is quite offensive to exclude others according to the new revisions to policy.
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
    As I said before this isnt an American thing. This doesn't fly with any of my Latino friends or Canadians, they arent American and can see the flaws in these policies.

    A boorsih person isnt confined to one region in the world, a very narrow view to have.
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    I don't understand the mentality permeating this thread that this won't change the way anything is enforced. Why would SE grant GMs powers and then not use them? If what they're actually going to enforce is different, why not write that down instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
    Are you saying Americans are boorish? That's a rules violation there friend, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
    You're being racist....to say that just because i am a american that i am a boorish person? That is generalizing an entire group of people and then insulting them based them being a part of that group. It's an extremely childish thing to say and is only counterproductive in the sense that you claim that more respect is what we need while at the same time hypocritically stating such things as this. I am reporting you for harassing me based on racist generalized statements. No seriously i'm reporting you.
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    Last edited by Mizunoko; 02-13-2019 at 03:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    That is generalizing.
    Yes, it is. Read the word in between the hyphens very carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    You're being racist....to say that just because i am a american that i am a boring person? That is generalizing an entire group of people and then insulting them based them being a part of that group. It's an extremely childish thing to say and is only counterproductive in the sense that you claim that more respect is what we need while at the same time hypocritically stating such things as this. I am reporting you for harassing me based on racist generalized statements. No seriously i'm reporting you.
    Erm...

    boor·ish
    Dictionary result for boorish
    /ˈbo͝oriSH/
    adjective
    adjective: boorish

    rough and bad-mannered; coarse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    You're being racist....to say that just because i am a american that i am a boorish person? That is generalizing an entire group of people and then insulting them based them being a part of that group. It's an extremely childish thing to say and is only counterproductive in the sense that you claim that more respect is what we need while at the same time hypocritically stating such things as this. I am reporting you for harassing me based on racist generalized statements. No seriously i'm reporting you.
    As a fellow American, there is nothing (nationality does not equate race I'm afraid) racist in their comment at all. Please educate yourself on the meaning of such words and contextual use before you sling around such ignorance.

    You got generalizing correct though, but you really need to stop with the hyperbole that's so rampant in this damn country anymore.

    Also these new rules are too vague and seem easily abuse-able in favor of people that nitpick and complain too much.

    I'll basically be treating the game as a single player game even more so than I already have been doing.
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    Last edited by Nakaress; 02-13-2019 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    And players from Europe, the Caribbean, etc. are - in general - not nearly as boorish as we are. (We being Americans.) As another poster pointed out, these rules seem mostly aimed directly at players in the United States.
    I am european and i dont like those changes at all, and to be honest we are more feed up with this censorship going on around everywhere, since it actually pushes us harder than you americans. We could be prosecuted for what we are writing on the internet, will it be "hate speech" or whatever, someone reporting you in europe for it could deliver you a policemen visiting you in the next coming day, its a nightmare and the UK and Germany are countries where it happens all the time.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-13-2019 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    it could deliver you a policemen visiting you in the next coming day, its a nightmare and the UK and Germany are countries where it is happening all the time.
    Source please.

    Also European citizens have a lot of protection, things have come a long way since decades ago. It's probably the US amendment of Freedom of Speech that seems to be at odds with this new policy more than anything, which I think it's why someone brought up the generalising of players from a certain country.
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