Regarding the Revision of the Prohibited Activities and Account Penalty Policy

[Xtrasweettea]

Does this also mean I can report people who call me elitist because I suggest they should improve their skills before they go into high end content and that no one has the obligation to carry them through content or sit in dungeons for 40 minutes? I find that very emotionally distressing.
Does this mean that if we tell a dps player in 380 gear who's doing 4k dps to learn to play his job better we'll be reported? I mean, things are really getting ridiculous.

According to the new TOS, yes, they can report you. You are trying to "compel a playstyle."

[Iscah]

According to the new TOS, yes, they can report you. You are trying to "compel a playstyle."

* According to how people are interpreting the new TOS.

Which overall is being done in some clearly exaggerated ways to prove a point, instead of just pointing out the issues and waiting to see if we get a dev response.

[Xtrasweettea]

* According to how people are interpreting the new TOS.

Which overall is being done in some clearly exaggerated ways to prove a point, instead of just pointing out the issues and waiting to see if we get a dev response.

Because the rules are so broad, they can be interpreted every which way to Sunday.

No, not some of these are clearly exaggerated. They are exaggerated to you because of your own perceived value and benefits the rule may provide. Others do not have that same perception of value about these new TOS rules.

"Compel to playstyle," is super broad. There is no measurable base to this rule. Who's playstyle? The player's playstyle? SE's interpretation of what a playstyle for a role or event should be?

Most of these rule are for "offense." Offense has no measure to it. SE made rules for something that isn't measurable, has no base for us to use as a guideline, minus a few points (such as gender and "thinking"). It's completely up to GMs and SE.

[Lauront]

Because the rules are so broad, they can be interpreted every which way to Sunday.

No, not some of these are clearly exaggerated. They are exaggerated to you because of your own perceived value and benefits the rule may provide. Others do not have that same perception of value about these new TOS rules.

"Compel to playstyle," is super broad. There is no measurable base to this rule. Who's playstyle? The player's playstyle? SE's interpretation of what a playstyle for a role or event should be?

Most of these rule are for "offense." Offense has no measure to it. SE made rules for something that isn't measurable, has no base for us to use as a guideline, minus a few points (such as gender and "thinking"). It's completely up to GMs and SE.

Exactly. Even if their intention is to specifically weigh down on certain types of abuse, the rules are written incredibly vaguely - and are ultimately interpreted and enforced by the GMs. Not the devs.

I don't see how people can try to defend these aspects of the new ToS.

[Rivers23]

According to the new TOS, yes, they can report you. You are trying to "compel a playstyle."

I'm very close to outright dropping the game. I mean, if people start getting banned because they're telling other people to improve, that's just sad. I mean, basically everything is harassment nowadays, you can't say anything to anyone anymore. Stuck with an ice mage in a dungeon, stuck with someone who doesn't use aoe abilities, stuck with someone who clearly doesn't know the mechanics of the fight he's in? Tough luck kiddo, you have to keep your mouth shut and carry them.
I mean, who cares anyway, Yoshi probably knows that 90% of the players play the game to glam and afk in Limsa, who cares about pve content.

[Xtrasweettea]

I'm very close to outright dropping the game. I mean, if people start getting banned because they're telling other people to improve, that's just sad. I mean, basically everything is harassment nowadays, you can't say anything to anyone anymore. Stuck with an ice mage in a dungeon, stuck with someone who doesn't use aoe abilities, stuck with someone who clearly doesn't know the mechanics of the fight he's in? Tough luck kiddo, you have to keep your mouth shut and carry them.
I mean, who cares anyway, Yoshi probably knows that 90% of the players play the game to glam and afk in Limsa, who cares about pve content.

Glamour is the true game. You just have to do "content" to get the pieces you want for your glam (or purchase it off of the Mogstation).

[Hyperia]

I am honestly very worried about this.

• If I say something, anything, or... nothing at all, and somebody takes offense to that... I'm banned?
• If somebody does not like how I pull a dungeon, I'm banned?
• If somebody does not like my playstyle, or my character, or my speech, or anything else, if they take offense to me in general... I'm banned?

The delivery of this change is worrisome as well, something this dramatic and significant should have been a PLL in itself. The fact that they are hiding the specific rules is exceptionally worrying as nobody knows what they can or cannot do. This is like a country passing a law saying that if you take offense to someone, they will lock them up and throw away the key.

When my employer implemented harassment training, we got a week of it and a book as thick as my wrist with all of the rules and guidelines. We knew what was safe, what we could correct and what would have to be corrected by others. We need guidance!

SE, I implore you, please post detailed guidelines so we may better abide by your rules. This is so vague that many people will withdraw from the rich community you have made out of fear. Is this what you really want? Did you really have to go this far? Your previous guidelines should have been sufficient to deal with any issue. As it is now, I will admit, that I am a bit fearful of this. I love this game and I don't want to get banned from trying to be kind and helpful.