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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by TritochHuntr View Post
    Did you actually read my entire original post? I addressed all those issues in it, aside from weather.

    I don't have any experience with DoL classes yet, so it seemed to me as if the weather was primarily cosmetic. I might not know all the solutions or problems that could arise, but I will say this.
    I did read your original post. You mentioned nothing about how to solve issues with DoL nodes. The only thing even remotely close was you suggesting a "once per day" limit to avoid exploiting. But that wasn't with regards to gathering nodes, just mob spawns that are affected by time of day. Timed nodes are a bit different from mob spawns.

    My point is, is that your change affects more than you think, and it's implementation would have to come with rectifying all of the issues it would cause (which are far more than just mob spawns). And your reasonings for implementing it are flawed and flimsy at best. It's a personal QoL that you want, which is fine. But let's not hide behind overblown and misconstrued "health concerns" here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TritochHuntr View Post
    I also want this option because the game is just way too dark overall.
    Turn up your game brightness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TritochHuntr View Post

    I don't have any experience with DoL classes yet, so it seemed to me as if the weather was primarily cosmetic.
    Well, just FYI: There are a lot of gathering nodes that only show up at certain times of day. Lots of fishes are also more likely to be caught at certain times/weather than others.
    For example the node for Adamantite Ore only shows up at 12AM/PM (Eorzean Time). A longer day/night cycle would mean fewer options to gather Adamantite Ore.
    (That is just one example - there are a few hundred more....)

    The weather and day/night cycle is far from only cosmetic in this game.


    All of the problems could of course be solved one way or another - but it would be a lot more work than you expected.
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    If the colors on your screen can affect your circadian rhythm, then you have far too much of your ambient light coming from your screen, and you're playing for much too long. That's terrible for your eyes to begin with. Open the curtains or turn on a light. The light from your screen should never be the majority of light in the room.

    Aside from that removing your reason for asking, there's at least three reasons why the suggestion would be a problem:
    • As some others have mentioned, there are several game features (gathering, fishing, sightseeing) that depend on Eorzea time. Perhaps they could all be adjusted to allow for a 24 hour rather than 70 minute cycle, but it does rule out having different players use different cycles.
    • Players also sometimes use Eorzea time to coordinate with each other, since that time is set at the server and not dependent on the platform you're playing on. If it were player specific, we'd lose the ability to say "Pulling at 3:00 Eorzea Time" or the like.
    • Most people have a particular time of day that they're most likely to be available. For instance, someone who works a typical daytime shift is likely to be only playing in the evenings. Should late evening be the only time of day they ever get to see in game? You actually went on to complain that it's so often night in the game, yet your suggested solution would make it *always* night in the game for anyone who only plays at night. The short day/night cycle was chosen to ensure that everyone can see both daytime and nighttime in the game no matter what time of day they're playing.
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    As several people have mentioned this would mess up DoL completely and for that alone it should just be forgotten.

    That being the case even if they could make it so that changing the day night cycle could be a cosmetic thing and became a config option due to the fact
    that time is currently connected to the servers... well lets just say this line of coding could probably have bugs upon launch, and bugs possibly associated with
    (like I don't know mucking up DoL in some way, even if it wasn't intentional) could cause enough fall out with players to unsub (and some folks have refused to come back after certain things... I know a few people who have quit just because of the way blue mage was implemented). This also doesn't factor in the fact of how upset the community
    would get as a whole to work on such a function that only a small percent of the population would enjoy (especially if it caused bugs and broke DoL temporarily).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TritochHuntr View Post
    Matching the local day/night should simply be APPROXIMATE, i.e. it doesn't have to match exactly, just close enough to simulate a real day anywhere on the planet.
    You do understand that it is impossible? The world is round and somewhere is always an opposite time of the day than somewhere else. I play with people who I have 12 hour time difference with, it would always be wrong to some. That said, the one thing bad in wow is that it always forces people to play on night time, for those who actually have work to do and can't stay on their computers all day. I even dare to say that if computer game day cycle starts to effect someone's perception of daylight hours other are spending way too much time in the light of their screen.
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    thats some realism that i'll pass on,

    why not just download flux or turn on night mode on your system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelyn View Post
    thats some realism that i'll pass on,

    why not just download flux or turn on night mode on your system
    Because I already do this! Health reasons aside, I just WANT to play at day when it's day, and at night when it's night. That's all, plain and simple. I should have kept quiet about the "health reasons" aspect, because at the end of the day (no pun intended) it's a strong personal preference for many different reasons. (Health is one reason, but not the only one.) I'm also tired of it always being nighttime in the game (or dark and rainy when it's daytime). I like to see the sun in the game and would prefer to see the sun more, especially during the day. Suggesting this as a an OPTIONAL PREFERENCE does no harm to other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    You do understand that it is impossible? The world is round and somewhere is always an opposite time of the day than somewhere else. I play with people who I have 12 hour time difference with, it would always be wrong to some.
    You're obviously not a programmer. The game has access to your local time. Just click the time display in the upper right corner and it will cycle between ET (Eorzean Time), ST (Server Time), and LT (Local Time). So all the game needs to do is read your local time, and then render an approximate position of the sun in the sky relative to that. Likewise the same thing would happen on your friends' computers (which read out a different local time value) if they have this preference enabled. So it would look correct relative to their local time, while at the same time it looks correct to your local time. Yes, it means they would see the sun in a different position than you do, but we already have all kinds of things that one player sees and another can't (quest NPCs especially).

    Obviously this is notwithstanding solutions for other issues. For the DoL issue, Square could just make this preference unavailable to anyone if they have a DoL class equipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TritochHuntr View Post
    Obviously this is notwithstanding solutions for other issues. For the DoL issue, Square could just make this preference unavailable to anyone if they have a DoL class equipped.
    Over-complicated solutions aren't helping your case.

    This isn't a change I feel like we should be wasting dev hours on. But if we did, everyone would still be under the mechanical effects of Eorzea Time regardless of whether they wanted the day night cycle to render based on Eorzea Time or Local Time. The cosmetic passage of time shouldn't affect the availability of content for anyone; not just because of potential abuse cases but because decoupling universal events from Eorzea Time to give everyone individual events based on local time would just be too much work.
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