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  1. #131
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    If their report provides a viable reason why the word "short" triggers them, then it would be considered valid under these new terms. After all, there technically wasn't any reason to specifically call out that when the "offending" player simply could have said "I didn't see the other player there." They didn't have to call them "short" on top of that.
    FF14 is slowly becoming like Twitter, were you need to take an hour to write a message and to make sure you won't offend anyone

    (This meme is not a critic toward blond people willing to wear blue dresses, feel free to wear red or yellow if you wish)

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    And therein lies a core part of the problem. People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.
    I'm interpreting this revision as a step towards that direction.
    Sir, your wise words are going to join my signature !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  2. #132
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    [URL="http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/368711-Can-we-talk-about-the-elephant-in-the-room-Permanent-Bans-from-the-Official-Forums"]Re-read this thread.
    Oh gods, someone got banned for posting a gif of Lightning, and the GM thought he posted a gif of themself. Is.. Is that why I don't see that gif on the forums anymore? Was it the one with the handbag? O.o

    Now I am seriously worried. If a GM can mistake a Lightning gif for a real person, what else can happen?
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 02-12-2019 at 05:48 PM.

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  4. #133
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Time to go full on controller. Won't be needing the keyboard anymore.
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  5. #134
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    I'm glad I can be banned for:

    Not liking your glam.

    Saying you're wrong about something.

    Saying no we shouldn't commit genocide on a fantasy race.

    Asking you to cast or not cast specific things.


    This is going to be fun.
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  6. #135
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    I'm actually pretty sure rescuing someone out of an AE is now bannable as it's an expression promoting a playstyle.


    Good thing you aren't a GM
    If my time doing guide/incident CS for Sony and Riot taught me anything, youd be much better off if he was than with people who actually handle these sorts of things. People who joke about this stuff wouldnt actually ban you, people who get to read through thousands of nonsense reports a day will.

    I have read the incident reports that have led to people being banned. It is not sane or logical. Theres a very good reason I no longer contract with, play games by or publically support Riot (but do for Sony)
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    Last edited by Barraind; 02-12-2019 at 06:16 PM.

  7. #136
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    Rowde's Avatar
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    Willig Rowde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    I'm actually pretty sure rescuing someone out of an AE is now bannable as it's an expression promoting a playstyle.
    "You didn't save my life!

    You ruined my death!"
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  8. #137
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    I was on board with the revisions until I started reading them. A lot of these seem really vague to the point where it sounds like you can have action taken against you just for daring to disagree with someone else. Or for saying anything at all, really, it's hard to tell because these points are mired in subjectiveness. These are so broad that daring to exist could potentially offend someone and apparently give them reasonable grounds to report me. I know in reality that these are just exaggerations, but it's the principle of the matter: these revisions need greater clarity and specificity.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  9. #138
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    Lady Zelda
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    I will say I do admit checking how the JP respond to this exact post. They are still on Page 1 and accepted without popcorn posts. Pretty telling how much exaggeration is being applied.
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  10. #139
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    So you can get ingame bans just as random as forum bans. Nice job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  11. #140
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    The new rules seem to be extremely vague, especially the sections on nuisance behavior.

    We can literally be banned for typing anything in chat with this ruleset, because we'll all eventually come across someone who is offended by whatever it is we had to say. Tank accidentally forgets to turn their stance on after entering a synced dungeon? That could result in a ban for politely letting them know with a simple one-word chat message. I've even seen multiple people take offense to me or others typing hello in chat at the start of a dungeon. I guess we shouldn't even say that anymore because of the "Other expressions that are offensive to another person" part of the rule. We might as well remove chat from the game entirely at this point.

    I'll probably be taking Rescue off my hotbar too. Can't be using that properly, because someone's going to find it offensive and get you banned for getting them out of a lethal AoE.
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