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    The end result will be that people won't talk to each other anymore because of fear of being banned considering how easlely players tend to get offended in this game

    Criticizing a player that stays in AoE to gain 0.001 DPS > ban
    Asking tank to put shield oath on > ban
    Lala joke > ban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Criticizing a player that stays in AoE to gain 0.001 DPS > ban
    Asking tank to put shield oath on > ban
    Lala joke > ban
    You can do all that and not be a jerk about it.
    It's not that hard.
    You can tell people to be mindful of AoEs, nicely.
    You can ask people to put shield oath, nicely.
    You ... can refrain from being judgmental over other people's choice of race and gender in a video game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    You can do all that and not be a jerk about it.
    It's not that hard.
    You can tell people to be mindful of AoEs, nicely.
    You can ask people to put shield oath, nicely.
    You ... can refrain from being judgmental over other people's choice of race and gender in a video game?
    I have seen games take things too far but honestly... vague or not... this is how I feel about it. I think SE has given themselves a lot more leeway to go after those folks who know every loophole to allow themselves to troll/harass/exploit/manipulate yet stay just within non-penalty-incurring behaviour. I really think they're still going to dump just as many of the "the healer said he went afk and handed his controller to his gf so I reported him can I please give back my XP" reports as they ever did.

    But then, the only people I've ever known to even get temp bans in game deserved every minute of it, so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    You can do all that and not be a jerk about it.
    It's not that hard.
    You can tell people to be mindful of AoEs, nicely.
    You can ask people to put shield oath, nicely.
    You ... can refrain from being judgmental over other people's choice of race and gender in a video game?
    No you can't because it violates this rule.

    Expressions that compel a playing style
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    "judgmental prick" isn't a playing style.
    Sorry, you have been banned for the following rule breaks:
    ・Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
    ・Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person
    ・Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion
    ・Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive
    ・Other expressions that are offensive to another person

    Possible: ・Actions that inflict emotional distress using content related to historical events or crimes
    if referring to a previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Sorry, you have been banned for the following rule breaks:
    ・Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
    ・Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person
    ・Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion
    ・Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive
    ・Other expressions that are offensive to another person

    Possible: ・Actions that inflict emotional distress using content related to historical events or crimes
    if referring to a previous post.
    Good thing you aren't a GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    Good thing you aren't a GM.
    Gm's are human too. You think that a guy having a bad day who's had to look at multiple reports taking your comment to offense is going to give you leniency?

    No such thing as crooked cops, right.

    There are MANY examples of lesser offenses getting players banned from the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    Well, that's reassuring.

    ◆Obstruction of play
    - Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour.
    ..or not.
    Again, I suspect that's to cover them when someone says "oh no, I just felt like parking my Behemoth there for hours, how was I supposed to know all those people were trying to talk to the NPC I accidentally sat on?"



    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Gm's are human too. You think that a guy having a bad day who's had to look at multiple reports taking your comment to offense is going to give you leniency?

    No such thing as crooked cops, right.
    GMs are human too... and capable of applying common sense. Tired GM is just as likely to say "seriously, you're wasting my time reporting a player because they called a Lalafell short?"

    Doubly so if dismissing it means all they need to do is click the delete button instead of having to take action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Gm's are human too. You think that a guy having a bad day who's had to look at multiple reports taking your comment to offense is going to give you leniency?

    No such thing as crooked cops, right.

    There are MANY examples of lesser offenses getting players banned from the forums.
    I do agree here but again if you are watchful of what you say and not intentionally harming anyone, why should you worry so much?
    This is also a good example of, well I expressed my opinion, I can't change anyone's so... this is where my replies end.

    I do understand the worry but I think it's really exaggerated. Just play nice, help people out if you can, leave politely if you can't and enjoy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    You can do all that and not be a jerk about it.
    It's not that hard.
    You can tell people to be mindful of AoEs, nicely.
    You can ask people to put shield oath, nicely.
    You ... can refrain from being judgmental over other people's choice of race and gender in a video game?
    Even if your not a jerk about that, the new policy is all about how people percieve the sentence.
    Asking to mind the Aoe and put Shield oath on can fall under :
    ◆Offensive expression
    "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:

    ・Expressions that compel a playing style

    Here, compeling someone to get out of AoE or using an ability they don't want

    As for lalas...it's not being judgmental, it's making jokes. I was the first to make lala joke when I was one, the same goes for calling my avatar "flea bags" or "classy girafe" depending on my current race.

    This is a video game and yet people get offended ALL THE TIME, just like IRL, I don't get it oO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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