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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    What astounds me is the number of people saying I don't want BLU because we don't need another generic caster/ it'd just be BLM with a blue magic flavour. Are people so creatively bankrupt that they cannot possibly think of unique and interesting ways a caster could work other than the ones they've given us. Here I'll give you a quick idea now which is even BLU relative: A caster that uses 1 second cast time spells, with loads of 1 second cast time spells not on the GCD (Off guard, Peculiar light style) so you then have a caster that is constantly pumping out lots of short casts. Thats just one example too, I hope this "generic caster" argument dies.
    No matter how the rotation is, it would still be a generic caster.

    BLU has 49 skills now, and it will have more at level 60 and 70. To fit the generic jobs, SE should remove almost all of the skills to fit the "around 24 skills only" criteria, and then put a generic rotation that would fit any fight against any kind of enemy, just like the rest of jobs that do exactly the same rotation on any kind of encounter. No matter what content you fight, you end up doing the same over and over again, the only thing that changes are the boss mechanics, so what's the point? Do you really need to destroy BLU to fit him into raid?

    BLU is not perfect and needs improvement, and I believe we have yet to see Limited Job's potential at higher levels, but I don't think we need to turn it into a "normal" job. I'd rather to keep it "limited" so in the future we could get new jobs such as Beastmaster and, who knows, maybe we wnd up getting improvements into the overworld to fit these jobs.

    Also we were supposed to get a Tank + Healer this expansion, so BLU feels like a bonus job for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
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    Oh hey its you again.

    So if no matter the rotation, it'll still be generic. Right. So Gunbreaker and whatever other class they add will also be generic then. So if your definition of Generic is behaves like a normal job then yes: I want BLU to be a "generic" job, because I would like it to be something i can experience the game with, like my other "generic" jobs.

    Also, Limited jobs getting better in the future, does not justify them as they are now. Implement now and patch it later is a horrible philosophy anyway. Going Deeper, okay they add 10 more levels and a new carnival, thats another 2 days of content (unless the rng is terrible), having more limited job doesn't change the fact that what limited jobs can do is horrendously flawed in the first place.

    Finally, I see you everywhere commenting that limited jobs could change the overworld. Nah they won't. Other jobs including gathers need to be able to function in the overworld, so limited jobs are going to slot around the overworld, not change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Oh hey its you again.

    So if no matter the rotation, it'll still be generic. Right. So Gunbreaker and whatever other class they add will also be generic then. So if your definition of Generic is behaves like a normal job then yes: I want BLU to be a "generic" job, because I would like it to be something i can experience the game with, like my other "generic" jobs.
    Gunbreaker will have new skills and mechanics but yeah, it will end up doing the same rotation on every single boss of every single content, no matter their size, element, weakness etc. I don't mean this is something "bad" because I enjoy playing with normal jobs and raiding, I just say that there's no point in destroying a job that works different and brings something new into the table. There are other casters you can choose to play with, just let us have something new.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Also, Limited jobs getting better in the future, does not justify them as they are now. Implement now and patch it later is a horrible philosophy anyway. Going Deeper, okay they add 10 more levels and a new carnival, thats another 2 days of content (unless the rng is terrible), having more limited job doesn't change the fact that what limited jobs can do is horrendously flawed in the first place.
    That's the true problem. BLU or Limited Jobs need to bring fresh new content, and carnival doesn't feel enough. That's what we should fight for, and not destroying it to fit a content that we already have.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Finally, I see you everywhere commenting that limited jobs could change the overworld. Nah they won't. Other jobs including gathers need to be able to function in the overworld, so limited jobs are going to slot around the overworld, not change it.
    We don't know yet. They hinted Beastmaster in a Live Letter and said the actual content can't fit this kind of job. We should fight against "carnival only" content and maybe we'll get a chance to improve the overworld and get new content.


    I think turning BLU into a normal job would be a huge step back. I love this game and don't want it to get stagnant into the same content on every single patch.
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