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    Ishgard the most messed up area?

    Hello

    i would like to speak about Ishgard aréa, storyline and role in the main story.

    Many thing doesnt fit with this "kingdom"

    first i find the landscap too much different about the geographical logic, look like a people choose to live in the mountain in tiny place only.

    Then i find very weird to take most of the code of middle age in france, with christian systeme fanatisme and crusade stuff, and trying to do a poor copy of "game of throne like" with "house"
    The plot there are very predictable and not very interesting at all, also it is very cliché about middle age in europe, for me the dev just build a kind of criticism of what they dislike from europe, many christian zelote created problem in japan in the past.

    The kingdom is quiet poor, only snow and some mountain, not much personnality to compare with uldah for exemple. And they didnt work to make this place cool place to journey on, which is pity. beside in the main story they are just missing, like if those ppl are in their "world" with their "crusade" against dragon and "muslim", i mean "fanatic" as they are too. It sounds a "skyrim like" but very messy.

    So tell me, what is the use of this kingdom in the main story and in the world of eorzea? It is like they dont fit at all with the rest, like a mistake in the matrice. And i m not astonish that they are just minor in the rest of the story. I d say it was just a kingdom to fufill a part of the story, where they didnt work very seriously on it.

    Here are my feel, whats yours about? i m wondering if i m alone to find this "kingdom" as a mistake in éorzea who could be skipped.
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    Last edited by Kazhim; 02-10-2019 at 11:54 AM.

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    Eh honestly isgard has more personality than uldah... they are not rlly poor just had to spend more on army's than most things honestly when i got there i was in aw it was a perfect design to how a kingdom should be when they fight dragons... uldah lets face it the biggest threat to the people of uldah is the people of uldah for whats around it to be honest the other city states have to deal with more than uldah does.
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    If you pay attention to the story a LOT of stuff is explained. In fact a lot of what you're pointing out is correct. But I won't tell why because spoilers >3<
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    For one answer that isn't spoilery, Coerthas (and thus Ishgard) didn't actually used to be a snowy place back in 1.0. The Calamity cause by Bahamut cause a LOT of environmental damage though as well as upsetting the elemental aspect of Coerthas heavily towards ice, thus all the snow. Plus the area is much bigger then I presume you have explored so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Eh honestly isgard has more personality than uldah... they are not rlly poor just had to spend more on army's than most things honestly when i got there i was in aw it was a perfect design to how a kingdom should be when they fight dragons... uldah lets face it the biggest threat to the people of uldah is the people of uldah for whats around it to be honest the other city states have to deal with more than uldah does.
    Uldah has immigration problem, political issues, based on Osman empire, i find it with a strong identity, and Nanamo is the best ruler compare to other. we can not be agreed, but if we see just fact, Uldah tried to have his own personnality, not just copying Osman empire, where Ishgard is really really look like middle age in france, even name, or religious institution. I see no effort to give them an identity. From what i see of Uldah, they took the design of old constantinople, and middle east sultana, but you dont see any derviche, or zelot, it is more based on trade and science, as arabian world was able to do, also with question of slavery and refugees. and as city starting i found most of the tales around good and usefull for the rest of the narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    For one answer that isn't spoilery, Coerthas (and thus Ishgard) didn't actually used to be a snowy place back in 1.0. The Calamity cause by Bahamut cause a LOT of environmental damage though as well as upsetting the elemental aspect of Coerthas heavily towards ice, thus all the snow. Plus the area is much bigger then I presume you have explored so far.
    Well i m almost at end of ARR so i think i did the round of it, ok for the reason of snow, but still, this is really too much a part with the reste of the ambiant game, that not fit at all, that how i felt
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    Central and Western Coerthas and Ishgard proper are all snow but since you haven't gotten to the rest of the areas you'll see it's not just snow and there's a reason why they have their war and why there's people who speak out at the church's teachings.
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    Yeah, if you're only in ARR content, you arent even TO Ishgard proper yet, just the outskirts.
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Ishgard is one of the best places in the game with a lot of personality and story. Far more than any of the other city states, I think. When I first started playing, I also had no interest in a bunch of elves living in the snow, but after I learned everything about Ishgard it became my one true love.
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    Ishgard is possibly the best area of the game. It will come together in the story.
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