Quote Originally Posted by St0rmchild View Post
24man loot has become completely irrelevant apart from glamour since we got augmentations for crafted gear.

This has started in 4.3 and will likely continue - basically you can have a full set of gear equivalent in ilvl to what 24man gives you on day one of an odd-numbered patch (equal to tomestone, 10 behind augmented tomestone/raid)

About the only thing relevant from 24man is the weekly token for gear upgrades ... so if they really want to do something about people not giving a single care about 24man, let them fix what it drops before they fix how it drops.

Yeah, but token gear is pretty limited, due to the limitation on tokens. Orbonne gear is still quite useful for alts, as is the 380 gear from Alphascape. It's only really obsoleted for your main (since by now, most people who care have a full set of token gear/savage for their main). Sure, people with lots of time on their hands maybe have an alt in Scaevan gear, but the 380 and 390 certainly isn't "obsolete".