Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
you guys do realize that they cannot change anything right the lore has been made I wish they made more summons but I guess we get what we get
Nothing in the lore specifically states that they cannot get more summons.

I mean, when you try to summon Ramuh-Egi it fails but the reasoning wasn't completely damning against getting a Ramuh summon.

Especially when you then went on to later get Demi-Bahamut...

All the other summons, you haven't attempted to summon yet. Partly because you got side tracked by trying to take out the Ascian and partly because you also needed to stop faux-Sari from being all evil and what not.

Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
it still a summoner you have a SUMMON
By that logic, MCH is a Summoner because they SUMMON their turrets into battle.

In reality, neither SMN nor MCH have much of a link to the Summoner classes in previous titles. Outside the fact that SMN technically uses small versions of Primals (But in all honesty, Egi's could be literally replaced with Carbuncles and they'd feel no different...)

A quote from the FF wiki is as such:

Summoners use special magic that allows them to call forth summoned monsters. Summons usually cost more MP than the average spell, but are much more powerful. In some games, summoners also have the ability to cast either Black Magic or White Magic as well as to summon, thus making them more versatile.

Usually, summoners and their summons possess some important story element; such as the summoners of Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy IX and Final Fantasy X, where the concept of a summoner is focused and expanded further from a mere job class and where their presence and powers significantly change the landscape of the world they live in.
Which references that summons are usually "Much more powerful [than regular spells]" and the class is usually "Expanded further from a mere job class and where their presence and powers significantly change the landscape of the world they live in."

This is encaptured with Demi-Bahamut in how powerful it is but not so much with the Egi's which feel kind of lame and forgettable for the most part. With their major highlight being Garuda having Contagion and that's about it.