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    Dimensional Travel doesn't imply time travel.
    Rak'Tika and Il Mheg could really just be regions not only our, but all reflections. Maybe we will visit them, just not in ours.

    Now, the phrases "history rewritten" and "this place certainly has changed" imply heavily on time traveling. Then the options are way to broad to even consider them.

    Time Travel I: Back to the past - We travel BACK in time to prevent some event from happening. It could be traveling to a previous calamity or the very first of them, or we might just trigger one about 4.55 and we are just traveling back in time to fix that one alone.
    Time Travel II: Forward to the future - This doesn't seem to make sense, if our starting location is our present. Maybe we are transported back DURING 4.55, making our progression in 5.0 finding a way BACK to 4.5.
    Interdimensional-Time Travel III: A shard to the past/future - We jump reflections AND travel in time, maybe we gotta prevent "The First" to fall and help Minfilia there, maybe we gotta go there and do the exact opposite and fight against her and Arbert and maybe even Thancred switching sides which would be so interesting but that is merely me being fanfiction. Anyway, if this is the case then we literally have no clue. We could go to reflections of hydaelyn so massively distorted by the different probabilities of their world events... Just too broad.

    Since we are factually in the Source world from which all world's get reflected. I think we will have to either face the rejoining or we will have to prevent it. Face it would mean to go and solve every reflection's problems trying to tip the Source towards balance and Prevent it would mean time traveling and rewriting history.

    In my wildest dreams, we totally become ascians and travel to other Reflection to actually kill Hydaelyn before the balance tips too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Now, the phrases "history rewritten" and "this place certainly has changed" imply heavily on time traveling. Then the options are way to broad to even consider them.
    ok this two sentence don't means time travel, history rewritten is more about how the end of the first shard will happend....
    the sentence "this place certainly has changed" it can happend after coming back to a certain place after a long time, we don't know when this event in the trailer will happend.

    i will be clear, we can't be the warrior of darkness in the primal world.... because ascien act already as absolute darkness. then turn into the warrior of darkness in the primal world will serve no purpose.
    the purpose to be the warrior of darkness is to fight the light and for this only one place is satured by light and need help from a warrior of darkness for change all.

    the most important point about all of this story, is the fact that solus did told to the emperor that he will not be around for a time, when he can already teleport where he want.... means he is not anymore in the primal world.
    finally and that the most important point of all.... if the ascien was able to time travel.... they will have done the fusion of the world a long time ago!

    i'm quite nice and will add more detail that point in direction of dimension travel to the first shard:
    1) the enemy shown in the teaser are all enemy light based
    2) the sky in the battle between our character and the kuribu, the sky is covered by cloud, but the sky behind seems to be pure light.... like in the pixie area.
    3) the only thing that can move throught dimension (from what we know) are soul... explaining why krill can't find the soul of the scion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Now, the phrases "history rewritten" and "this place certainly has changed" imply heavily on time traveling. Then the options are way to broad to even consider them.

    Time Travel I: Back to the past - We travel BACK in time to prevent some event from happening. It could be traveling to a previous calamity or the very first of them, or we might just trigger one about 4.55 and we are just traveling back in time to fix that one alone.
    Time Travel II: Forward to the future - This doesn't seem to make sense, if our starting location is our present. Maybe we are transported back DURING 4.55, making our progression in 5.0 finding a way BACK to 4.5.
    I'm not sure why travel to the future wouldn't make sense "if our starting location is our present". Where else are we going to start from? Why does it make sense to travel back but not forward in time from there?

    But anyway.

    The line in the trailer says that history must be unwritten, not rewritten.

    This is a critical distinction that I think changes the reading.

    Something rewritten would be altered but still generally exist; "unwritten" suggests it has to be erased entirely - we've hit a dead end and need to wind back to a point in time before it became unfixable.

    Also from memory, it says the disaster that "must be undone" is greater than the Seventh Umbral Calamity. That means that whoever is telling us that is from either our present time or the future, to be aware of that event - and my gut feeling is that this new disaster would be taking place after it as well, though that's not as certain.


    And then there's the issue of messing with the timeline.

    I remain hopeful that any time travel will still be following the same time logic shown in the Alexander questline, both for consistency and because I think it makes for more enjoyable writing.
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