Please seperate the Relic Weapon and Eureka weapon in 5.0

[loreleidiangelo]

Jobs still have knockbacks.

Am I missing any outside of MCH and WHM? We had a MCH in our raid group but never actually tried him using Blank on the necessary wind mob. I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked anyway. I miss interactions like that, though I know double BRD/double PLD meta in first Coil because of silence wasn't looked at favorably by either the devs or the community.

[LaylaTsarra]

I doubt Eureka will continue into ShB.
However this isn't because it was failed content. Quite the opposite. It was content people liked (well Pagos was....) for the most part.
It actively had people in there all the time, still does at the time of this post. All regions! I might go Penty farming later today in fact.

The reason I don't think it's going to continue is the same reason Diadem didn't continue. Again, not because it was failed content (and that arguably was), it's because they learn from what they did, and carry on to improve later objectives.
Diadem, Diadem 2, and all the versions of Eureka are teaching the devs what people like to do in these things. They get more creative with each rendition. Pyros was hella fun.

So while Eureka won't continue, something else will surely take it's place.

Seems very popular to me in spite of the sages on this forum predicting anemos would be dead in a month when everyone got to 20. I personally enjoy it. Thats not to say I want to see a repeat of Eureka in Shadowbringers. I would hope the relic quest will be different from what it's been in the past. What i don't want to see in another tome grind into oblivion in order to earn one.

[Jonnara]

Seems very popular to me in spite of the sages on this forum predicting anemos would be dead in a month when everyone got to 20. I personally enjoy it. Thats not to say I want to see a repeat of Eureka in Shadowbringers. I would hope the relic quest will be different from what it's been in the past. What i don't want to see in another tome grind into oblivion in order to earn one.

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

[LaylaTsarra]

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I actually enjoyed pagos. Leveled a number of toons there. Sorry but I thought the additional challenge of getting around was fine. They've nerfed it now so it's a lot easier for those who didn't want to do it. Spawn rates and aether levels make it pretty easy now.

I wouldn't be opposed to open world content in Shadowbringers but I would also hope it wouldn't just be a rehash of Eureka Stormblood with a new coat of paint. We'll have to wait and see what they have in mind.

[Vaer]

I'd be cool either way. Maybe make it able to progress faster in totallynotDiadem 3.0 so that there is still an incentive to play in there, but also make it so you can progress it outside of totallynotDiadem 3.0 for people who still want to do the relic but want additional options.

[HyoMinPark]

If jobs still had knockbacks we wouldn't have even needed that. I'm not really sure that counts.

Gordias was a floater in a lot of ways but I think 2 was actually a fight done right there.

The easterlilies in o6s weren't affected by anything other than Typhon, iirc. So having a knockback wouldn't have done much good. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain Fluid Aura and Blank had no effect of them.

That being said, I think he was referring to the Air Force mount players were supposed to get in to avoid the earthquake, but that could be heavily shielded through to keep uptime. Not Typhon.

[loreleidiangelo]

The easterlilies in o6s weren't affected by anything other than Typhon, iirc. So having a knockback wouldn't have done much good. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain Fluid Aura and Blank had no effect of them.

That being said, I think he was referring to the Air Force mount players were supposed to get in to avoid the earthquake, but that could be heavily shielded through to keep uptime. Not Typhon.

I liked the paint gimmick of O6S but I sort of wish it had been utilized a bit better, or that you could "combine" paint colors to have even more tools to deal with mechanics. It was a really underutilized idea, IMO. Maybe it'll come back for another raid.

[Ekimmak]

The easterlilies in o6s weren't affected by anything other than Typhon, iirc. So having a knockback wouldn't have done much good. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain Fluid Aura and Blank had no effect of them.

That being said, I think he was referring to the Air Force mount players were supposed to get in to avoid the earthquake, but that could be heavily shielded through to keep uptime. Not Typhon.

Yes, I was.

Dunno why I wrote Delta, it's Sigma.

[Jandor]

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Pagos is fine now, I might even go so far as to say it's my favourite of the three. It's much more newbie friendly now that the TP points have been adjusted too.

Everyone raves about Pyros but it feels incredibly overrated to me, I found logograms more annoying than interesting, and these days 90% of the instance just AFKs in town.

[TheGrimace]

You have it, it's called Tome Gear.

Cool, then let's just scrap Eureka's weapon outright. I mean, it's not like the weapons scale past I300 there, right?