Viera Race "Confirmed" for 5.0! Are you gonna change races?

[Makeda]

Fun fact, though Charr are the least played Race at 13%, Humans only make up 40% of the players ... the remaining 60% are pretty much evenly spread through out the remaining non-human races with the highest being 16%.

And that really doesn't contradict my point. That's decently popular for such an alien looking player race.

I think that's even a higher percentage than the percentage of people here that play Ro or Elezen (not sure on that though).

It's pretty common for people to play things that either look familiar to them or look cute. No matter how reprehensible. The Blood Elves of WoW were quite popular when they came out - though for the first year they were in that game they survived by devouring the souls of others, and kept a 'being of the light' as a slave to power their magic. Most players ignored that lore with amazing levels of willful blindness and RPers would describe themselves as 'good' based purely on the physical appearance of their toons... (and judging goodness by that standard is something that the 1940s-1960s basically proved to the world as the near definition of evil).

My point was really to show another game where the 'furry' concept was a success... and I didn't have much more of a point AT THAT TIME...

But now that we're here...

13% is a lot of a playerbase to get for a race that looks like a monster. You've got these horribly huge beasts with cat heads, giant fangs, massive claws, four horns, taloned feet, and advanced technology in a world were almost everyone else is using 'stone knives and bearskin rugs' (The Asura - the deep earth guys, have sci-fi tech, as the only people more advanced than Charr. But the Charr tech all looks like stuff you could make in your garage is someone was poking you with a cattle prod while you were making it - it's mostly realistic, but harsh). But then they just have this amazingly deep pile of lore to them built around overcoming the adversity of being driven out of their sacred homeland by the humans, being overcome by a xenophobic religious cult, breaking free of that, fighting to take back their lands, and then stepping up alongside the very people that worked so hard to destroy them in past centuries that they were willing to sink an entire continent just to prevent the Charr from 'despoiling it'... And the game just keeps dropping lore for them. A lot like here actually - the more you play the more you get rewarded with that lore.

All of which is to say... they could easily repeat that here with any of the beast tribes.

Many of whom are nowhere near as monstrous. Imagine if the Beast Tribe they gave us as a PC option was the Gnath or the Ixal. That's still more 'cuddly' than many a Charr (they did add a cute kitty face later on with one living story NPC).

The races we do have here, they are all amazingly similar. So much so that it actually surprises me that Ro and Elezen are so underplayed. Then again they don't do much to explore the lore of the races here. The cities yes, but the races only in fragments.

The lore we already have from Fran, is almost the equal of the amount of lore we have for the Elezen...

ps: yes... lore wise Guild Wars is my favorite of all the modern MMOs. Gameplay wise I've gotten dissillusioned... but yeah my love of their lore gets the best of me from time to time.

[reivaxe]

And that really doesn't contradict my point. That's decently popular for such an alien looking player race.

I wasn't trying to contradict your point or argue against beast races.
"Fun fact, though Charr are the least played Race at 13%, Humans only make up 40% of the players ... the remaining 60% are pretty much evenly spread through out the remaining non-human races with the highest being 16%. This game is truly an example of how beloved well designed non-human races can become if treated right. Not only do they have their own home lands but also unique starting stories, clear cultural differences that play into this story as will as racial awareness in the story through NPC interactions. these are all things FF14 doesn't have ... which also means that GW2 will simply never get a new race and FF14 can afford to bring in new races as there is far less work in it than in GW2."

And yes, 13% of general pop is far greater than what Roe and Corpse people sit at. Prob a mixture of reasons, ranging from the general lack of interesting shapes they have (Male Roe are legit just walls, and though I love my Fem Roe they have no shape to them other than beef and breast which leads to them looking like gym instructors. Elezen have awkward proportions and animations) to the dev's desired aesthetic for the game (like how Butts where changed in the move to ARR so that they could put as lil work as possible into designing gear that goes on everyone). Either way a culture that seems to adore the cute has become the most noticeable and as such races that don't look traditionally cute are far less played.

Could they make a popular Beastly Race? Of course, it takes effort and all but it can be done if their know the target player base. Will that ever happen? I'm sure it wont. I'm just pleased that they seem to know that they have to push for super high heels for these Bunny People and if the concept and Fran are any indicator they seem to want to put some butt into them. I don't see them making a non-human based race like the Charr when they can't even be bothered to put in tail holes.

[Iscah]

The lore we already have from Fran, is almost the equal of the amount of lore we have for the Elezen...

More lore than we have for Duskwights. ;_;

We just know that they apparently still live in caves... somewhere... except for the ones who've taken up banditry who are 90% of the NPCs we meet.

The lorebook has some brief "details" (eg. food and crafts) but nothing big-picture.

And yes, 13% of general pop is far greater than what Roe and Corpse people sit at. Prob a mixture of reasons, ranging from the general lack of interesting shapes they have (Male Roe are legit just walls, and though I love my Fem Roe they have no shape to them other than beef and breast which leads to them looking like gym instructors. Elezen have awkward proportions and animations) to the dev's desired aesthetic for the game (like how Butts where changed in the move to ARR so that they could put as lil work as possible into designing gear that goes on everyone). Either way a culture that seems to adore the cute has become the most noticeable and as such races that don't look traditionally cute are far less played.

Character choice comes down to the things you can put up with versus the things you like! I have a male Duskwight and female Roegadyn alt, plus a male Au Ra, so odd proportions all round... but that also makes them interesting, and I like their faces. Gear also makes a big difference.

I feel like it's partly down to the character selection screen as well - some of the default character designs just don't look that nice compared to how they can look if you play around with the settings, and the straight-on default camera view can look awful compared to an angled view of the same character. I wouldn't have picked any of my characters based on their default appearances, but "found" them by experimenting with all the races whether I thought I liked them or not.

[Reinha]

If the devs can afford to design the third job this expansion in a way that almost no one plays it after a week, it probably wouldn't be a problem for them to design races that don't immediately become the most popular.

[Duskane]

welp gender locked it seems

[Crushnight]

aye it seems no comfirmation though so i'm trying to hold out hope for bunboys

[SturmChurro]

Lol I just watched this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=N8JE4-T-i0s

The race looks as I expected, but look at that BUTT!



I'll say here what I said to my friend, "this race particularly in this video looks like something you would find as an ad on "****hub" I'd add more but I don't think I'm allowed to on these forums lol.

[Niqote]

welp gender locked it seems

To be fair, they never said there would be no playable males and there is another panel + another fanfest to go. So not all hope is lost.
They do like to make us sweat :3

[Burningskull]

I'm not a fan of how long the ears are... maybe if there was a bent ear option? or a slider for the ears? granted the slider probably wouldn't get the tip of the ears near the head....

[Roda]

To be fair, they never said there would be no playable males and there is another panel + another fanfest to go. So not all hope is lost.
They do like to make us sweat :3

Yeah I'm gonna save hope for a company that doesn't have a track record of cutting corners, saying sorry, then going back to cutting corners when they think they can get away with it again.