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  1. #191
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Pretty disappointing rewards for me. Going to pass I think on the event this year.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Okay, enlighten me then. Why can't there be a group of tonberry that you help out (the beast tribe mechanic)? It sounds very implausible that the lore has been so locked up it can't be made to happen. Even if they were written to be dead SE could always find some run away tribe else where, or a new plague set of victims.

    This reminds me of how stubborn people were with how it just can't be done with Summoner and different larger egi (which was done later). The lore while it should be respected (retcons are bad) is not something that is very likely to prevent much of anything from happening given enough wiggle (as SE has frequently done themselves, showing they willingly do it).
    Oh yeah... don't you dare call them beasts! ;p

    On a more serious note, most of the beast tribes in the game are established as such before the quests become available. There are typically good and bad/tempered factions; areas on the world map allocated for each of the respective tribes, and a diety/primal they worship. Moogles would be the exception as a tribe of hostile moogles are not really found in the open world. They're kind of a blend of both good and bad honestly as both ill and good intent come out cute with them.

    Tonberries just don't fit in with that theme. With the current beast tribes, we tend to be a part of preventing an unfavorable fate headed their way. With Tonberries, the poor guys are already the victims of said fate.
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  3. #193
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    WTB decent event rewards. The last couple events have just had really boring rewards.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Oh yeah... don't you dare call them beasts! ;p

    On a more serious note, most of the beast tribes in the game are established as such before the quests become available. There are typically good and bad/tempered factions; areas on the world map allocated for each of the respective tribes, and a diety/primal they worship. Moogles would be the exception as a tribe of hostile moogles are not really found in the open world. They're kind of a blend of both good and bad honestly as both ill and good intent come out cute with them.

    Tonberries just don't fit in with that theme. With the current beast tribes, we tend to be a part of preventing an unfavorable fate headed their way. With Tonberries, the poor guys are already the victims of said fate.
    Beeeaaas--- *gets tonberry stabbed*

    Haha Namazu I think about specifically when you say preventing something from happening lol. That fire wipe away was cute :3. But wouldn't the moogle also be an example of building something up, lining up with the idea of helping rebuild Nym or at least some portion of it for the Tonberry's hopeful cure? With the moogles we were basically helping them take care of the land, which they were uh.. so.. so.. great at yeah.. XD. Appears that moogles make up many exceptions to the expectations lol.

    Not that I'm saying they have to be called beastmen, I think a triple triad card used to call them beastmen but was changed to manlike perhaps to smooth out lore (appears at least from digging through the wiki). I'm just saying I'd like to see them under the beastmen system, mostly at least - I think the word beastmen at this point is fairly loose and is more like "looks different" or perhaps "third world, not as civilized as us" (like a Pocahontas setting where he calls them savages and she is like "u wot?" lol). Since most of the unique distinctions besides looks seem to be at this point remove-able or very ignore-able and minor. Like one of the more unique issues is primals but we've been shown with enough energy we can become and create primals like the knights of the round, shiva, pheonix, etc. Imo it seems our star signs maybe something like that (there is a minor quest were some people talk about summoning Rhalgr), maybe with shadowbringer coming even our service to the crystal was all a bunch of "would you kindly" lol. WoL can't be tempered because they're already tempered.. :O (I know it's the echo, but could also be an echo aka already brain washed lol)
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-02-2019 at 05:43 AM.

  5. #195
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    Can you only claim a reward once?
    We did the maze twice last night and the rewards only popped up once.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattersailNightwish View Post
    Can you only claim a reward once?
    We did the maze twice last night and the rewards only popped up once.
    You should be able to do the maze multiple times so you can get all the items from the shop (as many times as you want). I own like 5 of each item, so at least when it's working then yeah you can get the rewards many times.

    It is score based though, I'm not sure if you get nothing at a lower value but I got 3 at least when you're ranked meant to be or whatever they called it lol (stay in the nice blue for the first part and not missing too many card guesses).
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You should be able to do the maze multiple times so you can get all the items from the shop (as many times as you want). I own like 5 of each item, so at least when it's working then yeah you can get the rewards many times.

    It is score based though, I'm not sure if you get nothing at a lower value but I got 3 at least when you're ranked meant to be or whatever they called it lol (stay in the nice blue for the first part and not missing too many card guesses).
    Oh.. I didn't know it was score based.. We got something the first time, we did better the second time got the same ranking. I'll mess with it, thanks!
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattersailNightwish View Post
    Oh.. I didn't know it was score based.. We got something the first time, we did better the second time got the same ranking. I'll mess with it, thanks!
    Np! Apparently last time if you do really well under a certain time frame you can get 6 in one run even, and you get lots of decorations. So I imagine that's true here too~ Click the link: Spoiler, if you want to see

    Gl hf!
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-02-2019 at 06:16 AM.

  9. #199
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    We're unlikely to get the tonberries as a beast tribe because they're heavily involved in the Scholar questline. That's where we're almost certain to see a resolution to their story and (I hope!) the eventual breaking of the curse.
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    We're unlikely to get the tonberries as a beast tribe because they're heavily involved in the Scholar questline. That's where we're almost certainly see a resolution to their story and (I hope!) the eventual breaking of the curse.
    Is it evil that I hope not, just because I like tonberries? lol. I would concede having them be both in detail for the scholars, and everyone else would be difficult lol (especially if you don't want to make one side or the other seem unimportant in terms of the affect you have on them). Although still I think you might be able to bind the end of the scholar tonberry chain with an open to everyone doman enclave like idea mentioned previously by DevonEllwood.

    However~! As I went onto read, unless the wiki lied, they're called Tonberries because they look like the creature from myth (actual tonberries). So.. I have a solution for everyone. Introduce the creatures from myth, the OP stabby stabby bring you nightmares tonberry. Then, save the ones from the scholar quest. Ours are not actually tonberries even. They're just messed up (due to the void sent plague), they're not even a "tonberry". Calling them tonberry is about as accurate as calling them beastmen (maybe they're not accurately defined as beastmen, but to the outside they could look like one - similarly that's how they earned the name Tonberry if the wiki is to be right), according to the game's own lore then lol. Sort of a Indians of the US sort of issue, they're not really what they're called. Or in other words give me enough rope and I will find a way to make it happen, just because I can..
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-02-2019 at 10:03 AM.

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