Valentine's event 2019 info released

[Wyssahtyn]

(maybe we're going to find a Tonberry beast tribe?)

Don't toy with my emotions like that

Tonberries, in so far as they exist in Eorzea, are survivors of Nym who were transformed due to a plague. The scholar questline goes into more detail.

[Bracken]

Am i missing something, where the hell do you get the sword and the knife from?

[Shougun]

Tonberries, in so far as they exist in Eorzea, are survivors of Nym who were transformed due to a plague. The scholar questline goes into more detail.

So beast tribe when? lol . Obviously "where" they appear needs to be explained but I don't see why we can't have them under the beast tribe mechanic, and how most of the world would probably perceive them as such.

Also it would be neat to see a rebuild of part of Nym story-line .

I know the lore of the Tonberry up to level 50 quest, not sure beyond that but to what I know there is nothing that could stop the formation of a beast tribe mechanic in the game so far (except maybe some people feeling uncomfortable I'm calling them beasts lol).

Am i missing something, where the hell do you get the sword and the knife from?

The fortune teller that is west of the amphitheater aetheryte (west of the waterfall/moogle mail, sort of around the corner) has elixir to sell.

Behind the house north of the Lancer guild aetheryte is a magic pot (imp demon thing), he'll take 1 elixir for 1 knife or sword (so bring two).

[alimdia]

I know the lore of the Tonberry up to level 50 quest, not sure beyond that but to what I know there is nothing that could stop the formation of a beast tribe mechanic in the game so far (except maybe some people feeling uncomfortable I'm calling them beasts lol).

Then you don't know the lore, we're not in ARR and those quests have been expanded in the last 4 years.

[Shougun]

Then you don't know the lore, we're not in ARR and those quests have been expanded in the last 4 years.

Okay, enlighten me then. Why can't there be a group of tonberry that you help out (the beast tribe mechanic)? It sounds very implausible that the lore has been so locked up it can't be made to happen. Even if they were written to be dead SE could always find some run away tribe else where, or a new plague set of victims.

This reminds me of how stubborn people were with how it just can't be done with Summoner and different larger egi (which was done later). The lore while it should be respected (retcons are bad) is not something that is very likely to prevent much of anything from happening given enough wiggle (as SE has frequently done themselves, showing they willingly do it).

[alimdia]

Because they aren't beasts.

And the last SCH quests deal with finding a cure to remove the disease, so in theory they will eventually revert back to Lalafells.

[Shougun]

Because they aren't beasts.

. . . That's all? I cannot accept that as reason enough to stop SE from putting the Tonberry under the Beast Tribe Relation's bar and adding them into the beast tribe mechanic where in you help them rebuild their civilization. Really such a simple issue could be fixed by changing a few words in a UI or adding a new section below it (or they could leave the label and just suggest that most people in civilization see them as beastmen because they couldn't possibly not be, dang judge-y society ! heh).

And the last SCH quests deal with finding a cure to remove the disease, so in theory they will eventually revert back to Lalafells.

This edit has better reasoning, but you could still put them in the tribe system - the end result might be significantly different though (they unbecome a beast tribe at the end? might be interesting). Or.. new plague victims may happen, or you could always never give them a cure.. XD. Attempted but failed to find a cure lol. Many things could be said to make it happen without breaking lore, unless the lore has been written so strictly which I doubt (like we get a new more powerful Bitoso, new plague).

[Bright-Flower]

The tonberry knife is kind of cute for 'cutting cake' I guess? Except wait, don't you only see the off hand for DOH classes when crafting certain recipes? I kind of wish it was like, a really tiny paladin sword or ninja daggers instead.

Not sure why a DRK sword is there outside of a vague connection of DRK and the holiday being connected to Ishgard.

[DevonEllwood]

Because they aren't beasts.

And the last SCH quests deal with finding a cure to remove the disease, so in theory they will eventually revert back to Lalafells.

I think what they're referring to is to have a similar mechanic, like the beast tribes (do a bunch of little quests, rank up, etc.), but not call them a beast tribe. I think something like what we did with the Doman Enclave or custom deliveries (or a mix?) would be more suitable for them though. I would really like to have more scholar and tonberry info.

[Shougun]

I think what they're referring to is to have a similar mechanic, like the beast tribes (do a bunch of little quests, rank up, etc.), but not call them a beast tribe. I think something like what we did with the Doman Enclave or custom deliveries (or a mix?) would be more suitable for them though. I would really like to have more scholar and tonberry info.

Yeah, even though I was not versed on the lore of Tonberry.. I knew they weren't merely beasts already, but to me I think any outsider would look at them and call them exactly that - so I am fine with the word used loosely even if not purely accurate out of the lore concept that others would use it anyways (beastmen seems more like "third world country" word usage anyways lol). So I used the word in what I felt was fitting context, while also knowing they weren't technically like a Vanu Vanu or Gnath. Well I am now far more read on the tonberry lore than before though since I was challenged that it couldn't happen (just read a few quest logs and summaries). I still believe the only thing preventing it from happening is people not wanting it, because it is open enough to add into the game further (you'll have to explain what they're doing but that's true of anything).

I think your doman example is pretty good, I'd be full for that. I just think the daily quest system of beast tribe would be nice as well. So if it was a doman enclave building up with beast tribe mechanic as well, then oh yeah that'd be awesome (throw in a delivery person as well for good measure lol). I think tracking the progress and receiving ranked up quests is fun, which is why I specific mentioned it under the beast tribe system. Although again I think you can argue the word use of beastmen was fine too, at least that's why I chose to use it with full knowledge of their technical true race status. Since beastmen appears to be a sort of derogatory "nonstandard, third world" word anyways (and tonberry were set back so hard they apply to both lol) - one of the big things was each beast tribe has a primal but we don't.. however with our star signs, Knights of the Round, Odin (ish..), and Phoenix existing I'm not really sold that we don't either (just maybe haven't bothered to summon and pass down the tradition in the same was the beastmen have).

Also consider that the plague victims are called Tonberry based off a myth creature (quoting the ffxiv wiki here), could always just introduce us to the real tonberries. There are so many ways to make it work, if one wanted to do so lol.