Some love for Blue Mage

[Mito123]

Blu mage should have been a proper job to for ffxiv. If they wanted to experiment they should've done it with a new original Ffxiv job not a popular job that people wanted. I am very disappointed and I'm worried for the future of Ffxiv. I feel like if this is going to be the future of other jobs then the game is going downhill for me.

[Shiroe]

if blu would have been a proper job, than it would have had a way less interesting way to level up and not learnt moves like it does.., it would have been just another caster.. (do we really need another caster in SB after getting rdm?)

and we wouldnt have had new solo content (even if PFs are needed at times for some moves)

another caster vs new (solo) content.., dont mind trying out something new than just another caster atm

[Shiroe]

imo dancer and gunblade are imo popular.. not blue mage (we already got black, white and red mages..., and learing spells from enemies ofc cant work in normal content unless you give it tripple development time.. for just one class)

[Phoenicia]

I don't get why people think you can't have both aspects if the job was implemented as a full job. Spell acquisition can still be the core of the job.
Give it some base moves like a melee combo and make the blue spells be rotated through the melee combos or something (traditionally BLU is a melee caster).

Again, what is bad atm about BLU is not just the fact it is solo, but the whole deal of the limitations. BLU is so limited even its ability to play solo is limited.

[Factoree]

I don’t understand why people think BLU being “limited” is the only way it could thrive. Any number of suggestions have been made as to how a full version of BLU could be developed without screwing up balance or taking insane amounts of dev time. The color mages are a staple of FF jobs and BLU has traditionally been extremely popular (polling on reddit for a while now has suggested that Dancer and Blue Mage were the two most anticipated jobs before the supposed job leaks).

Reducing it down to “just another caster” is as absurd as saying “oh, if they implement Gunblade and it can reach level 80 it will just be yet another cookie-cutter Disciple of War”.

There isn’t a great reason why Learning needs to be segregated from having a real endgame spell set. The best argument i can find against it is that it might be annoying for Blue Mages to go have to learn spells every time they level up to stay competitive... but even then, if you are playing as a Blue Mage, you (should) know what you’re in for and be ready for it! Especially if the learning is not tied to luck or random chance (as far as I can tell, learning blue magic by chance was exclusive to FFXI), nobody can complain that they have to fight an enemy once to learn its spell.

If BLU had a solo experience that was actually fun, I might consider that it doesn’t need to be a full job. Frankly, it’s not all that fun. Even when it’s possible to solo something as BLU, it doesn’t really have any mechanics for me to manage or things I need to think about (like almost every other Job), so it just feels like meaningless button mashing to me.

Whereas if it were un-limited, I could have fun playing BLU alongside my friends in the same new and exciting content every other Job gets to play.

[Mito123]

if blu would have been a proper job, than it would have had a way less interesting way to level up and not learnt moves like it does.., it would have been just another caster.. (do we really need another caster in SB after getting rdm?)

and we wouldnt have had new solo content (even if PFs are needed at times for some moves)

another caster vs new (solo) content.., dont mind trying out something new than just another caster atm

The devs can make it still learn spells like it's doing now and still do everything that's the same just make it unlimited. Duty finder can be unlocked if you learn X spells and only use X spells other wise you can't do it. There I fixed the problem. Your welcome.

[Mito123]

I don’t understand why people think BLU being “limited” is the only way it could thrive. Any number of suggestions have been made as to how a full version of BLU could be developed without screwing up balance or taking insane amounts of dev time. The color mages are a staple of FF jobs and BLU has traditionally been extremely popular (polling on reddit for a while now has suggested that Dancer and Blue Mage were the two most anticipated jobs before the supposed job leaks).

Reducing it down to “just another caster” is as absurd as saying “oh, if they implement Gunblade and it can reach level 80 it will just be yet another cookie-cutter Disciple of War”.

There isn’t a great reason why Learning needs to be segregated from having a real endgame spell set. The best argument i can find against it is that it might be annoying for Blue Mages to go have to learn spells every time they level up to stay competitive... but even then, if you are playing as a Blue Mage, you (should) know what you’re in for and be ready for it! Especially if the learning is not tied to luck or random chance (as far as I can tell, learning blue magic by chance was exclusive to FFXI), nobody can complain that they have to fight an enemy once to learn its spell.

If BLU had a solo experience that was actually fun, I might consider that it doesn’t need to be a full job. Frankly, it’s not all that fun. Even when it’s possible to solo something as BLU, it doesn’t really have any mechanics for me to manage or things I need to think about (like almost every other Job), so it just feels like meaningless button mashing to me.

Whereas if it were un-limited, I could have fun playing BLU alongside my friends in the same new and exciting content every other Job gets to play.

I agree with you

[Shiroe]

it not so easy to give blu the amount and diversity of moves it can AND balance it like a normal job, so it can do all content (and still learn moves the same way it does at lv 60 and 70)

it would take waaay to long to balance it for all the content ...

blu in its way is fine for solo content, better having this fresh content with a new experimental (and somewhat extreme) class... than a new ("normal") class in normal content (as another dps mage)..

a new tank or a new healer (or dancer) would have been more appreciated .. than another dps mage for normal content

and toward the end of an expansion, after we've already done most / all content with our main (or 2) and just redoing it normal content again with another class..., the theater / solo content and blu build is imo fresher..., just Blu is missing more content after you got all moves (something more to work towards like a mount or something)

[GenericMagus]

I think more people would be outraged if it was Dancer than was Limited to a Gold Saucer attraction than Blue Mage imo. I feel people are apathetic to BLU.

But BLU being Limited is still a dumb idea. At level 50, I have to try and find ways to make it work for me, to justify using it after I done everything. There's no point to it. Nothing. People say that it's new and to allow SE to experiment yet they don't listen to what people want or twist it so far out of what they asked for.

Right now BLU is a failed shell of what it should be, they have no endgame, no relevacy and the Masked Carnival amounts to a glorified weekly. Stop saying to wait till its better. We judge on what we're given, SE is treating this like a full release, so I'll treat it like a full release. SE themselves even said they wanted to avoid the "release now, patch and fix later" attitude, yet here they are, not wanting to do anything or reply or even discuss it with the community at large.

Also, I find it funny how people say they want something new and innovative yet they want Viera or other old stuff to be added into the game.

[Miziliti]

Reducing it down to “just another caster” is as absurd as saying “oh, if they implement Gunblade and it can reach level 80 it will just be yet another cookie-cutter Disciple of War”.

Exactly this. One of the most stupid argument from people against BLU being a regular job is that BLU would become another BLM LOL!

No job is as bland as BLM juggling betweent fire, ice, and thunder only. SMN is already different enough. Just look at RDM, it has faster casting spells that can be instantly cast after every other spell and a melee combo. None of the caster jobs care remotely identical to each other. Let BLU become a regular job has zero chance with it being a BLM copy at all.