Shadowbringers and Ivalice

[Vrankyl]

Huh, interesting conversation. I was until now under the false notion that Ivalice was the area that we may be venturing to. Hence the mention of the Nu Mous, Viera, Bangaas and so many nods from the raids and quests. Now it dawned on me that I mistook the "new world" for Ivalice when it's likely or possibly Vana'diel, in some form. I guess I didn't pay as much attention to the Return to Ivalice series as I should have.

I really thought XIV's version of Ivalice was a continent and not an extinct kingdom. Then the Viera jungles and Nu Mou territories are located in Eorzea?

The Forest that the Viera live in, and possibly the Nu mou, reside in the Kingdom of Dalmasca on the Othard continent so they have no connection at all to Eorzea. As for the New World, from what little we know the probability of it being Vana'diel is minimal at best.

[Kupocoubo]

So this is the map (which comes from reddit) of Othard with Dalmasca and Valnain (the capital of Valendia from Vagrant Story, also in Ivalice)
I don't think a land this huge would not be explorable.

[SendohJin]

What ? we can enter inside Ala Mhigo

not an actual town/city, with its own Market Board, Aethernet, quests, etc. it's not even a hub like Mor Dhona, Idyllshire, Rhalgr's Reach or the Doman Enclave.

Othard was a mistake. Kugane should be our city in 5.0, Shadowbringers should be 6.0 and in a turn of events, 7.0 should be either new world or meracydia

i don't think so, i much prefer the current pacing of the story. Stormblood has issues but stretching out the Garlean story another 2 years is not the price i would pay to correct them.

[Kupocoubo]

not an actual town/city, with its own Market Board, Aethernet, quests, etc. it's not even a hub like Mor Dhona, Idyllshire, Rhalgr's Reach or the Doman Enclave.

It can be added in later expansions, I don't see how it invalidates my point any way

[SendohJin]

It can be added in later expansions, I don't see how it invalidates my point any way

because what some/most players think is mandatory doesn't exactly influence how the devs do things.

what's your definition of "explorable" anyways? like is Xelphatol good enough for you?

[Kupocoubo]

because what some/most players think is mandatory doesn't exactly influence how the devs do things.

what's your definition of "explorable" anyways? like is Xelphatol good enough for you?

To me explorable mean you can ride the mount of your choice while visiting this place

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

(their primal will probably be Ultima, since it's their guardian deity in Tactics Advance).

That would be pretty weird given she was just a Raid boss. Ultima in XIV seems to be based on the St. Ajora version anyway.

That being said, it could be a neat way to use XII Ultima as a boss.

[Auryan]

The Forest that the Viera live in, and possibly the Nu mou, reside in the Kingdom of Dalmasca on the Othard continent so they have no connection at all to Eorzea. As for the New World, from what little we know the probability of it being Vana'diel is minimal at best.

Ah, that makes more sense. And yeah, the connection between the new world and Vana'diel is a bit of a stretch. Just me letting my imagination run wild again.

[Endeleon]

We did that twice in Stormblood and once in Heavensward to some extent. I'd like it if we shifted from 'liberating a bunch of people" to something else. Themes of oppression,occupation, resistance and such have been milked enough in my opinion.

This just in! No more liberation for the world suffering under a colonizing war machine! "Mansion" is tired of it! You all have to suffer.

[Kupocoubo]

That would be pretty weird given she was just a Raid boss. Ultima in XIV seems to be based on the St. Ajora version anyway.

That being said, it could be a neat way to use XII Ultima as a boss.

Ultima from FFXII and Ultima from FF Tactics are the same entity, also when primals get summoned by beast tribes, their appearance is based on how the tribes see them, so if the Nu Mous summoned Ultima, it will mostly be her appearance from FFXII / Tactics advance